Bills fan Kyle Brandt caught flip-flopping in 4k

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The OT rules should be changed. I’ve thought this ever since it happened to Mahomes in 2018 against Brady.

If Josh Allen won that coin flip our season would be over. That’s the truth.

Both teams should touch the ball. It’s a huge advantage for offenses in that scenario bc not only is the game changed to favor offense, but both defenses are gassed. They’re dead tired.

Keep the rules the same except the team that lost the coin flip gets a chance to get a TD if the team that won the coin flip gets a TD first

These overtime rule changes are so poorly thought out.

Im so sick of hearing this. It's STILL not fair. All you're doing is extending the game.

Ok, so Mahomes get the ball and scores. Great.

Then Allen gets the ball and scores. Great.

NOW what? Now the next score wins? NOW the defense matters? So Mahomes gets the ball after Allen scores, goes down the field and scores. Can the game be over now, or does Allen still get another chance to make it fair?

At what point do we acknoweldge that a stop has to be made? And if a stop HAS to be made, then wtf is the point of extending it at all? Just so Allen can score one more touchdown and still lose the exact same ****ing way when Mahomes gets the ball back?

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Ok, how about this for not fair:

Team 1 goes down and scores and elects to kick the XP.

Team 2 now has a HUGE advantage, as they can now elect for a 2pnt conversion and win the game outright.

In a situation in which both teams are guaranteed a possession, there's a very clear strategic advantage to receiving the ball 2nd.

Team 1 has to decide if they should kick the XP or go for two. If they go for 1, team 2 has a decided advantage over team 1 in their next possession as they KNOW they can win with a 2pt, while team 1 risks either losing by NOT going for 2, or going for 2, missing and then losing to team 2 who now only needs to kick an XP to win.

That's such a massive advantage to the team with the 2nd possession it's not even funny. Much bigger advantage than just winning a coin flip

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And here's the real kicker:

In the playoffs, only 20% of the teams that receive the ball in OT are actually winning them on the first possession.

20% you dolts!

20%!


For that math illiterate, 80-mother****ing percent of the time BOTH QB'S ARE touching the ball under current rules.

80-mother****ing percent of the time both offenses get a chance in OT. Jesus.

This isn't even a real issue! It's a completely false narrative drummed up by pouty bitch ass losers. It's not even a real ****ing problem in the NFL for christ's sake.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Has this been brought up anywhere?

If the other team is guaranteed a possession, they do so with the extra knowledge of what it takes to win the game. In other words, if the first team scores a TD and kicks the PAT, the second team not only knows it needs a TD, it also can go for 2 for the win and not give the ball back. (Or risk not making it and losing.)

Now, the first team could go for 2 to go up 8, but if they fail, the other team knows it only has to kick to win.

See what I'm saying?

Maybe the solution would be to require both teams to go for 2 each and every time in OT. But then you're still looking at long games and player safety, etc.

Originally Posted by Detoxing

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Ok, how about this for not fair:

Team 1 goes down and scores and elects to kick the XP.

Team 2 now has a HUGE advantage, as they can now elect for a 2pnt conversion and win the game outright.

In a situation in which both teams are guaranteed a possession, there's a very clear strategic advantage to receiving the ball 2nd.

Team 1 has to decide if they should kick the XP or go for two. If they go for 1, team 2 has a decided advantage over team 1 in their next possession as they KNOW they can win with a 2pt, while team 1 risks either losing by NOT going for 2, or going for 2, missing and then losing to team 2 who now only needs to kick an XP to win.

That's such a massive advantage to the team with the 2nd possession it's not even funny. Much bigger advantage than just winning a coin flip

No, you're dead ass right. It's a massive advantage. It's almost like...this wasn't thought out very well.

So now we have all these jackasses trying to fix a problem that isn't even a problem (20-mother****ing percent) and are instead making it even MORE broken. If they could rub two damn braincells together and think for a second....

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

These overtime rule changes are so poorly thought out.

Im so sick of hearing this. It's STILL not fair. All you're doing is extending the game.

Ok, so Mahomes get the ball and scores. Great.

Then Allen gets the ball and scores. Great.

NOW what? Now the next score wins? NOW the defense matters? So Mahomes gets the ball after Allen scores, goes down the field and scores. Can the game be over now, or does Allen still get another chance to make it fair?

At what point do we acknoweldge that a stop has to be made? And if a stop HAS to be made, then wtf is the point of extending it at all? Just so Allen can score one more touchdown and still lose the exact same ****ing way when Mahomes gets the ball back?

**************************

Ok, how about this for not fair:

Team 1 goes down and scores and elects to kick the XP.

Team 2 now has a HUGE advantage, as they can now elect for a 2pnt conversion and win the game outright.

In a situation in which both teams are guaranteed a possession, there's a very clear strategic advantage to receiving the ball 2nd.

Team 1 has to decide if they should kick the XP or go for two. If they go for 1, team 2 has a decided advantage over team 1 in their next possession as they KNOW they can win with a 2pt, while team 1 risks either losing by NOT going for 2, or going for 2, missing and then losing to team 2 who now only needs to kick an XP to win.

That's such a massive advantage to the team with the 2nd possession it's not even funny. Much bigger advantage than just winning a coin flip

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And here's the real kicker:

In the playoffs, only 20% of the teams that receive the ball in OT are actually winning them on the first possession.

20% you dolts!

20%!


For that math illiterate, 80-mother****ing percent of the time BOTH QB'S ARE touching the ball under current rules.

80-mother****ing percent of the time both offenses get a chance in OT. Jesus.

This isn't even a real issue! It's a completely false narrative drummed up by pouty bitch ass losers. It's not even a real ****ing problem in the NFL for christ's sake.

Not to mention, team #2 is in 4 down territory the whole drive if they know they have to score a TD.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

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In the playoffs, only 20% of the teams that receive the ball in OT are actually winning them on the first possession.

20% you dolts!

20%!


For that math illiterate, 80-mother****ing percent of the time BOTH QB'S ARE touching the ball under current rules.

80-mother****ing percent of the time both offenses get a chance in OT. Jesus.

This isn't even a real issue! It's a completely false narrative drummed up by pouty bitch ass losers. It's not even a real ****ing problem in the NFL for christ's sake.

Wow! Great post. That last section really puts things into perspective.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The OT rules should be changed. I’ve thought this ever since it happened to Mahomes in 2018 against Brady.

If Josh Allen won that coin flip our season would be over. That’s the truth.

Both teams should touch the ball. It’s a huge advantage for offenses in that scenario bc not only is the game changed to favor offense, but both defenses are gassed. They’re dead tired.

Keep the rules the same except the team that lost the coin flip gets a chance to get a TD if the team that won the coin flip gets a TD first

I haven’t heard one decent alternative yet.

Teams would always want to get the ball second because they’d know exactly what they had to do.


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[Monticore]

what if the team is able to run out the clock and score on the first drive do they add more time n the clock?

[New World Order]

So much butthurt

[Bearcat]

Seems strange the one from a few years ago cuts off at 27 seconds... it would be nice to get the entire clip.

It's not like he said he's opposed to a 10 minute OT a few years ago, he was opposed to both teams being guaranteed one possession.... and then in the recent clip, said he would change it to a 10 minute OT and you play the full 10 minutes no matter what.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Seems strange the one from a few years ago cuts off at 27 seconds... it would be nice to get the entire clip.

It's not like he said he's opposed to a 10 minute OT a few years ago, he was opposed to both teams being guaranteed one possession.... and then in the recent clip, said he would change it to a 10 minute OT and you play the full 10 minutes no matter what.

Except that wasn't his logic in the 2019 AFCCG when the Chiefs lost in OT.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Except that wasn't his logic in the 2019 AFCCG when the Chiefs lost in OT.

That's why I'd like to see the entire clip.... in 27 seconds, it seems like he's only arguing what's being asked, which seems to be guaranteeing one possession each. In this week's clip, he's proposing his own solution.

There is the "if you don't want to lose, don't let them get on base" in the baseball analogy though, as a lead in to his proposed 10 minute OT.... missed that the first time, which is a direct contradiction to post-Patriots game.

[notorious]

[ChiefBlueCFC]

It's funny how the narrative changed when Brady was on the winning side... "play better defense... don't line up offsides... win a coin flip..."

[louie aguiar]

Play better defense. Don’t cry about the rules.

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) January 24, 2022

[notorious]

We all know in our hearts that if they change the rule the Chiefs will take advantage of it in a big game.

The same bitches will be crying about the new rules because they are bitches.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by notorious

We all know in our hearts that if they change the rule the Chiefs will take advantage of it in a big game.

The same bitches will be crying about the new rules because they are bitches.

Absolutely. I am in favor of changing the rules. We have Mahomes. I don't want a coin flip to keep the ball out of his hands.