EV Cars/Trucks

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

...I wonder why others are not switching faster?

Perhaps some of us are fine with our old vehicles and don't want a new car payment.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by BWillie

The goal is to get almost everybody in the country to have solar panels. Sure it doesn't make sense for everyone but the majority of the country could have solar panels to create a large amount of their power each month. They are becoming more efficient and affordable everyday.

Or you know, we can just continue to be reliant on foreign oil.

I would think any way to lower our reliance on oil would be a cause for a celebration for your no government types. You can control your estate better without the help of the government.

We have enough oil to supply the world right here in the United States. Now, tell me, where do we get the batteries that power the electric cars? We don't have the minerals here to produce them. The argument of going electric to become "energy independent" is nonsense.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

We have enough oil to supply the world right here in the United States. Now, tell me, where do we get the batteries that power the electric cars? We don't have the minerals here to produce them. The argument of going electric to become "energy independent" is nonsense.

That's right. We could supply the entire world with bountiful oil, cheap gasoline for everyone, entirely produced from the good ol' USA, if only, if only, um..., what's the current conspiracy again?

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

We have enough oil to supply the world right here in the United States. Now, tell me, where do we get the batteries that power the electric cars? We don't have the minerals here to produce them. The argument of going electric to become "energy independent" is nonsense.

That and the fact automobiles/big rigs/cruise ships amount to roughly 16% of the total ozone depletion.
But we're saving the earth, lol.

Why not clean up the main culprits, industrial, foreign countries, plants producing electricity, etc., that contributes to destroying almost 50%, lol?


There's gotta be a balance. One dirty solution being replaced with another isnt, lol.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

We have enough oil to supply the world right here in the United States. Now, tell me, where do we get the batteries that power the electric cars? We don't have the minerals here to produce them. The argument of going electric to become "energy independent" is nonsense.

The other thing is the fact that our morons in the federal gov't are trying to force everyone to switch rather than letting this happen naturally through markets.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

We have enough oil to supply the world right here in the United States. Now, tell me, where do we get the batteries that power the electric cars? We don't have the minerals here to produce them. The argument of going electric to become "energy independent" is nonsense.

Wait about a decade. The US will develop a gold source of lithium.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

We have enough oil to supply the world right here in the United States. Now, tell me, where do we get the batteries that power the electric cars? We don't have the minerals here to produce them. The argument of going electric to become "energy independent" is nonsense.

And most of the lithium is refined in CHINA.

I remember when air was free at the gas station, too.

You think the rate for electricity will remain static?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by stevieray

And most of the lithium is refined in CHINA.

I remember when air was free at the gas station, too.

You think the rate for electricity will remain static?

We get screwed one way or the other.

I don't know why they are forcing the issue. As soon as electric becomes a better option than diesel with pickups I'll be all over it.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by stevieray

And most of the lithium is refined in CHINA.

I remember when air was free at the gas station, too.

You think the rate for electricity will remain static?

Yea, and almost nobody can build a damn car without computer chips that are manufactured (or not manufactured as the case may be) in southeast Asia. So what difference does it make?

[synthesis2]

Originally Posted by stevieray

And most of the lithium is refined in CHINA.

I remember when air was free at the gas station, too.

You think the rate for electricity will remain static?

I have solar so in the end don't end up paying anything for electricity, maybe in the middle of summer it might go up to $30-50 a month but most months are zero so not worried about electricity.

[ScareCrowe]

Honestly solar is the only realistic way to adopt EV's on a wide scale in the relatively near future. It removes the issue of creating & distributing all the additional power necessary to do it. We really need the technology to advance to the point the cars could be powered by their own solar panels, would do wonders for range & a lot of the recharging issues as you would really only need to charge the vehicle after dark.

[bowener]

For people saying our current grid can't handle more electric cars or joke about the apocalypse and being ****ed, you should hang out in Vermont for a bit. I work there off and on during the year and see tons of Teslas and other EVs. I believe Vermont is in the top 5 EVs per person. Vermont is also top 10 for most solar panels per person.

I mention all that because it's some of the most shit weather in the country except May-September. Mud season is shit and winter is really shit but pretty. A lot of people out there are dropping their traditional electric service and going with solar panels plus battery walls and a traditional propane generator for emergencies. Of all states, it might be one of the safest for hiding out during an apocalypse or the water wars in 2050. I've looked into having my farms converted to solar fields, which might be a viable option in the next 10 years. I'd do it now if I were closer to St. Joe or KC.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by bowener

For people saying our current grid can't handle more electric cars or joke about the apocalypse and being ****ed, you should hang out in Vermont for a bit. I work there off and on during the year and see tons of Teslas and other EVs. I believe Vermont is in the top 5 EVs per person. Vermont is also top 10 for most solar panels per person.

I mention all that because it's some of the most shit weather in the country except May-September. Mud season is shit and winter is really shit but pretty. A lot of people out there are dropping their traditional electric service and going with solar panels plus battery walls and a traditional propane generator for emergencies. Of all states, it might be one of the safest for hiding out during an apocalypse or the water wars in 2050. I've looked into having my farms converted to solar fields, which might be a viable option in the next 10 years. I'd do it now if I were closer to St. Joe or KC.

They're not paying enough.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

***FREE*** DC Fast charging in Topeka at Sharp Honda though Charge Point.



Had to drive back home from Wichita and a trip that normally would have cost $60 in gasoline plus $11.50 in tolls cost me $13.18. It would have only cost me the tolls had I not had to charge the car a bit before heading out.

[MagicHef]

I'm 100% ready to buy an electric car, but for it to make sense for my family, it must have 6 seats and plenty of cargo space. I'm hoping that the Kia EV9 doesn't come with huge dealer markups.