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Old 04-25-2022, 07:50 PM   #1
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Are y’all concerned about burks 3 cone of 7.28? I know he’s a big guy but that’s concerning?

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Old 04-25-2022, 08:17 PM   #2
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Are y’all concerned about burks 3 cone of 7.28? I know he’s a big guy but that’s concerning?

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Big guys aren't quick. It's kind of a rule.
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:02 AM   #3
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Big guys aren't quick. It's kind of a rule.
Unless we're talking Christian Watson.

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Old 04-25-2022, 07:51 PM   #4
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Deebo, who’s often comped to, had a 7.03 3 cone at 214 lbs. burks was 225 but 3 inches taller.

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Old 04-25-2022, 08:14 PM   #5
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No DK Metcalf had a 7.38
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:17 PM   #6
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DK isn’t a gadget player. If you draft burks, you’re hoping for some of those deebo gadget plays, right? Will burks have the quickness at that size to be a gadget player? And Dk is huge and ran a 4.33. Burks ran a 4.55.
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:52 PM   #7
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6 of the tes at the combine had 7.06 3 cone or quicker.
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Old 04-25-2022, 09:29 PM   #8
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It's a huge concern for me. Others on here say he plays faster than he tests. But the tape on him still looks slow to me. He works in RPO situations though.
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It's a huge concern for me. Others on here say he plays faster than he tests. But the tape on him still looks slow to me. He works in RPO situations though.
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:15 AM   #10
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Why do people put any credence into RAS scores?

Top 10 Chiefs in terms of RAS scores include the following players:
Brian Johnston (DE) perfect 10
William Bartee (CB) perfect 10
Brad Cottom (TE) 9.5
Omar Easy (FB) 10.0
Fujita (LB) 9.96
Jeff Webb (WR) 9.9
Chris Conley (WR) 9.68
Mike Capatano (DE) 9.81
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:22 AM   #11
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Why do people put any credence into RAS scores?

Top 10 Chiefs in terms of RAS scores include the following players:
Brian Johnston (DE) perfect 10
William Bartee (CB) perfect 10
Brad Cottom (TE) 9.5
Omar Easy (FB) 10.0
Fujita (LB) 9.96
Jeff Webb (WR) 9.9
Chris Conley (WR) 9.68
Mike Capatano (DE) 9.81
Exactly. It’s just a tool, not the gospel.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:04 PM   #12
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Why do people put any credence into RAS scores?

Top 10 Chiefs in terms of RAS scores include the following players:
Brian Johnston (DE) perfect 10
William Bartee (CB) perfect 10
Brad Cottom (TE) 9.5
Omar Easy (FB) 10.0
Fujita (LB) 9.96
Jeff Webb (WR) 9.9
Chris Conley (WR) 9.68
Mike Capatano (DE) 9.81
Why didn't you include all 10?

It's possible to let RAS, or a version of it, factor into a decision without being the driving force. I'm betting that is how most front offices use these types of analytics. I doubt any halfway decent GM would make a draft decision based solely on RAS.

That score doesn't claim to account for skill, instincts, vision, or character. All pretty important variables.

Nick Bolton is a good example. His main attributes coming out were his instincts, processing, and tackling ability. That pretty well shined through watching him play last year. No one would call Nick Bolton a freak athlete in today's NFL, but he's a damn fine linebacker.
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Old 04-27-2022, 06:31 AM   #13
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It's a huge concern for me. Others on here say he plays faster than he tests. But the tape on him still looks slow to me. He works in RPO situations though.
What "tape" are you watching?

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Old 04-27-2022, 09:42 AM   #14
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What "tape" are you watching?

Oh look it's that one play from Alabama again that everyone uses to reference his speed.

Nothing personal, it's just hilarious how often this clip is used to defend the "he's faster than he times" narrative.

Nice play and all. Now go find the clip of him running a WR reverse and it's like watching a goddamn TE trying to turn the corner.

There's clips of him playing faster than he times. There's also clips of him playing as slow as he times. His speed is certainly debateable.
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Old 04-25-2022, 09:46 PM   #15
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Burks doesn't really fit this offense.
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