Kiper: Trading for Jameson with Pitt

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

McShay also has us taking a RB in the 2nd round.

He's a ****ing idiot.

Honestly - I don't HATE the idea of Hall in the 2nd.

it's not exactly the direction I'd go, especially if we went WR in the 1st (and traded up to do so, thus presumably burning substantial draft capital to get there).

But I think Hall could do a lot to clear some chaff off this roster. We wouldn't need to have these 1-trick ponies like Jones and CEH going forward.

Hall's the best overall RB in this draft by a fair margin, IMO. He's going to be a really good player and can do anything we'd ask of him in t his system.

EDIT: NO MAFE IN THE FIRST, DAMMIT! This is a 24 yr old rookie who simply was not a very good player in college. Man that's a wrong-headed decision. That's just ignoring everything this guy put on tape over a 4 year career prior to the Senior Bowl.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Honestly - I don't HATE the idea of Hall in the 2nd.

it's not exactly the direction I'd go, especially if we went WR in the 1st (and traded up to do so, thus presumably burning substantial draft capital to get there).

But I think Hall could do a lot to clear some chaff off this roster. We wouldn't need to have these 1-trick ponies like Jones and CEH going forward.

Hall's the best overall RB in this draft by a fair margin, IMO. He's going to be a really good player and can do anything we'd ask of him in t his system.

If we keep all of our picks, Hall in the 2nd makes a lot of sense, even if I don't particularly love the move.

I feel the same way about Trey McBride, BTW.

They seem like luxury picks but they'd be GOOD luxury picks, so it balances out.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Honestly - I don't HATE the idea of Hall in the 2nd.

it's not exactly the direction I'd go, especially if we went WR in the 1st (and traded up to do so, thus presumably burning substantial draft capital to get there).

But I think Hall could do a lot to clear some chaff off this roster. We wouldn't need to have these 1-trick ponies like Jones and CEH going forward.

Hall's the best overall RB in this draft by a fair margin, IMO. He's going to be a really good player and can do anything we'd ask of him in t his system.

EDIT: NO MAFE IN THE FIRST, DAMMIT! This is a 24 yr old rookie who simply was not a very good player in college. Man that's a wrong-headed decision. That's just ignoring everything this guy put on tape over a 4 year career prior to the Senior Bowl.

Could not agree more on Mafe, absolutely no interest in him in the first. Re Hall I want two weapons in this draft so I might be convinced even if we had a R1 WR, but definitely not my preference.

[xztop123]

Jameson’s top speed on camera was faster than hills last season. He also has a way bigger catch radius.

He’s a long strider and has nowhere near the stop start of hill but hills arm length / height were certainly issues with certain routes.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Jameson’s top speed on camera was faster than hills last season. He also has a way bigger catch radius.

He’s a long strider and has nowhere near the stop start of hill but hills arm length / height were certainly issues with certain routes.

If he falls to 29, great.

If not, hopefully someone else drafts him.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he falls to 29, great.

If not, hopefully someone else drafts him.

I mean he's obviously not. He's probably not going below 20. But if he DID somehow drop there I'm honestly amazed how few people seem willing to go up for him.

Not saying it's a home-run or that there aren't legit alternatives like DE, or even that there won't be loads of value later. But the guys people are talking about - Pickens, Moore, Watson, Metchie, Austin - they're not this guy.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by JPH83

I mean he's obviously not. He's probably not going below 20. But if he DID somehow drop there I'm honestly amazed how few people seem willing to go up for him.

Not saying it's a home-run or that there aren't legit alternatives like DE, or even that there won't be loads of value later. But the guys people are talking about - Pickens, Moore, Watson, Metchie, Austin - they're not this guy.

It's also possible that Jameson Williams isn't Jameson Williams after tearing his ACL.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's also possible that Jameson Williams isn't Jameson Williams after tearing his ACL.

This is true

[The Franchise]

Do I think Breece Hall is going to be a good player? Yeah.

Do I think the Chiefs should take a RB in the 2nd round when we have a ton of other needs? **** no.

Grab a guy like Pierre Strong Jr. in the 4th after you've filled some holes and then we'll talk.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Do I think Breece Hall is going to be a good player? Yeah.

Do I think the Chiefs should take a RB in the 2nd round when we have a ton of other needs? **** no.

Grab a guy like Pierre Strong Jr. in the 4th after you've filled some holes and then we'll talk.

Ford or Cook are also good options I think.

[Chieftain]

Breece Hall reminds me of Derrick Henry. The guy is a monster who produced consistently and dominated in games he played. I would hate to use a 1st on a RB but if there is one player I could use it on it's this guy. Our offense would be unstoppable. Defenses wouldn't know what to cover, the pass or the run.
I don't think this would blow up like the CEH pick who many here hated btw at the time. I was hesitant myself. With Breece I would not hesitate. He will not be available by pick 50.

[Chris Meck]

You can get a bunch of good football players with 8 picks in the first four rounds.

[O.city]

A running back isn't making the offense unstoppable.

If we draft a RB in the 2nd round, I'm shooting all you ****ers to the moon.

No chance, no way just don't do it. Learn from the CEH mistake. Just not.