Some Quick Things

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

We got spoiled with Mitchell Schwartz. Having just one bookend tackle would help immensely, even if its just on the Right Side.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard

We got spoiled with Mitchell Schwartz. Having just one bookend tackle would help immensely, even if its just on the Right Side.

Yes we did.

The vast majority of OTs need help to their inside. Wylie absolutely does so he can cheat outside a little. He's not getting it and it's exposing his limitations.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Tough, hard fought football game against a physical Titans team that always gives Andy and Mahomes fits.

10. We should recognize the Titans; they're the 90's Chiefs. They played hard, they played physical, they were disciplined in coverage, they throttled the superior quarterback for 75% of the game...and then the HOF'er dialed it up and beat them. Elway used to do that shit to us all the time. Now we have the boogeyman. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.

This x 100

[JPH83]

On Smith, I agree he's not playing like he was last year, but playing hurt and with a pretty murderous schedule maybe it's not regression. One of the harder things for me is remembering that progression isn't linear. There's a LOT of guys with great rookie years that take a step back year 2 or just never take the step forward. There's a couple on this team that might apply to. Tempting to think it's just all uphill as long as a guy stays healthy but it's not how it works.

But I also think we're overstating his rookie year because of the insane value for a 6RD pick. He was excellent, but still very much a work in progress. He wasn't an All Pro.

He needs to play better, maybe it's a step back this year but I think just as likely it's a ****ling injury and going up against killer DLs.

[Mecca]

Quentin Nelson has been declining since his rookie year so it happens.

[el borracho]

Without reading the replies yet...

Kelce was off last night. That is uncharacteristic and I don't expect we'll that again this year.
When should we expect to see some sacks from Karlaftis?
When should we expect to see some yards and touchdowns from Skyy?

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Without reading the replies yet...

Kelce was off last night. That is uncharacteristic and I don't expect we'll that again this year.
When should we expect to see some sacks from Karlaftis?
When should we expect to see some yards and touchdowns from Skyy?

I'm going to be honest, if Karlaftis ends up a bust then I'll own that, i liked him as much as everyone. If Moore busts I'm 100% blaming that f***er Toub and his s****y ST coaching. Zero acceptance of being wrong, I will die on this hill.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by JPH83

I'm going to be honest, if Karlaftis ends up a bust then I'll own that, i liked him as much as everyone. If Moore busts I'm 100% blaming that f***er Toub and his s****y ST coaching. Zero acceptance of being wrong, I will die on this hill.

With Karlaftis work ethic I really don't see bust being a label he could earn. He will take time, absolutely but he will have every bit as good a career as Tamba had IMO.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

With Karlaftis work ethic I really don't see bust being a label he could earn. He will take time, absolutely but he will have every bit as good a career as Tamba had IMO.

Pretty much my take, but I also thought he'd do a lot more this year

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by raybec 4

With Karlaftis work ethic I really don't see bust being a label he could earn. He will take time, absolutely but he will have every bit as good a career as Tamba had IMO.

Tamba was nearly a 100 sack guy.

That's an ABSURDLY high bar.

I mean if the guy manages 50-60 career sacks, that's pretty acceptable to me. I mean if he's Kyle Vanden Bosch you take that 100 times out of 100.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Tamba was nearly a 100 sack guy.

That's an ABSURDLY high bar.

I mean if the guy manages 50-60 career sacks, that's pretty acceptable to me. I mean if he's Kyle Vanden Bosch you take that 100 times out of 100.

I'm not a big homer (IMO) and if he stinks I'll say it. I honestly believe barring injury he will be a guy that gets between 6-10 sacks a year for ten plus years. He's not going to be the guy who gets you 15 in one season but I think his relentless effort will make him an above average pass rusher.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Without reading the replies yet...

Kelce was off last night. That is uncharacteristic and I don't expect we'll that again this year.
When should we expect to see some sacks from Karlaftis?
When should we expect to see some yards and touchdowns from Skyy?

Kelce wasn't the same after the catch where he hurdled the defender and go flipped onto his head/scorpianed... he seemed a little beat up after that...

Karlaftis had some great pressures, but can't quite get over the hump. I think he is going to have a 3 sack game when he does bust out.

Skyy has the tools but is thinking too much, IMO, I think he will continue to get better as he becomes more comfortable with the offense and it becomes muscle memory.

[Megatron96]

I think Karlaftis will be fine. He is trying to chain moves together, as evidenced by that clip I posted a few days ago. He's about a step slow going from one move to the next, imo.

So he's been about a step to a step and a half away from actually getting some sacks this season. That can be cleaned up.

In the meantime, he's obviously been getting quite a few pressures, and he's been pretty solid vs. the run so far. He even made a couple last night, as I recall. A really nice one where he was supposed to be rushing, but recognized that the ball went to the RB (not Henry), reversed himself and made the tackle for just a two or three yard gain.

He'll be fine.

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I think Karlaftis will be fine. He is trying to chain moves together, as evidenced by that clip I posted a few days ago. He's about a step slow going from one move to the next, imo.

So he's been about a step to a step and a half away from actually getting some sacks this season. That can be cleaned up.

In the meantime, he's obviously been getting quite a few pressures, and he's been pretty solid vs. the run so far. He even made a couple last night, as I recall. A really nice one where he was supposed to be rushing, but recognized that the ball went to the RB (not Henry), reversed himself and made the tackle for just a two or three yard gain.

He'll be fine.

People here forget that Justin Houson didn't get a sack until his 12th game of his rookie season, when he broke out for 3. He still only got 5.5 total in 2011.

Thing is, Houston didn't have the spotlight of being a 1st round pick, and the 2011 Chiefs sucked. They had a lot more things to complain about instead of lack of production from a 3rd round rookie pick.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

People here forget that Justin Houson didn't get a sack until his 12th game of his rookie season, when he broke out for 3. He still only got 5.5 total in 2011.

Thing is, Houston didn't have the spotlight of being a 1st round pick, and the 2011 Chiefs sucked. They had a lot more things to complain about instead of lack of production from a 3rd round rookie pick.

Meh, the 30th pick is not going to get you an elite pass-rusher 99% of the time. Basically it was like a second round pick.

Obviously he needs to keep working on his skills, and let's remember that he didn't come into the league in NFL shape.

Next season, after a full NFL training program and diet program, I'm sure he'll be a lot better. I wouldn't bd surprised if we found out that he takes some kind of training for his flexibility as well during the offseason.

Now, if he comes into next season and he's no better than he is right now, I'll be concerned.