Nate Taylor with a lot of middle-to-big-sized news yesterday.

[oldman]

Bottom line(s) -
Snap counts are just the number of plays. They're not divided into running snaps or receiving snaps. Therefore, not necessarily a good measure for a WR.
Who does PMII trust? I don't think he's ever trusted Hardman on any route except a go. After almost 4 years you'd think he would understand a 12 yard up and out means 12 yards, not 12.75 or 11.3. One has to question that if Hill didn't have some trouble 4 years ago, would we have even drafted Hardman.
Moore is from a rookie from a school in a weak conference. He'll need some time to adjust to the NFL.
Toney runs the jet sweep just fine and he's harder to bring down than Hardman.
Watson isn't WR1-3, he's 4 at best. But with Hardman and Toney injured and Moore still learning, he's been thrust into a role. The team still needs guys to fill the WR4-6 roles.
Until someone steps up and takes pass plays from either Juju or MVS they'll be on the team.

One more thing -- WRs need to block downfield.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by oldman

Bottom line(s) -
Snap counts are just the number of plays. They're not divided into running snaps or receiving snaps. Therefore, not necessarily a good measure for a WR.
Who does PMII trust? I don't think he's ever trusted Hardman on any route except a go. After almost 4 years you'd think he would understand a 12 yard up and out means 12 yards, not 12.75 or 11.3. One has to question that if Hill didn't have some trouble 4 years ago, would we have even drafted Hardman.
Moore is from a rookie from a school in a weak conference. He'll need some time to adjust to the NFL.
Toney runs the jet sweep just fine and he's harder to bring down than Hardman.
Watson isn't WR1-3, he's 4 at best. But with Hardman injured and Moore still learning, he's been thrust into a role. The team still needs guys to fill the WR4-6 roles.
Until someone steps up and takes pass plays from either Juju or MVS they'll be on the team.

This isn't terribly difficult data to find, though...

The Chiefs, on the season, had 768 passing snaps. They broke out as:

Kelce -- 600 receiving snaps
MVS -- 554
JJSS -- 528
McKinnon -- 343
Watson -- 295
Gray -- 283
Hardman -- 200
Moore - 167
Pacheco -- 147
MEH -- 124
Fortson -- 104
Toney -- 65

I mean, do what that information what you will, but if it's your position that snaps aren't a reasonable proxy for 'receiving snaps' I'd say that's incorrect. By and large, the correlation appears to be pretty much one for one.

Which makes sense as Andy has always noted that he is cognizant of 'telegraphing' the playcall based on the alignment. So he's just not a guy who's going to run a system where personnel gives a hint as to the play being run.

Ultimately it's difficult to tell what your thesis is here. I gues if it's to speak to Mahomes 'trust' in his receivers you'd want to divide targets by number of routes run?

Kelce -- 600 routes and 150 targets -- targets on 25% of his routes run.
MVS -- 13.7%
JJSS -- 18.4%
McKinnon -- 19.8%
Watson -- 10.8%
Gray -- 12.0%
Hardman -- 16.5%
Moore - 19.2%
Pacheco -- .9%
MEH -- 17.7%
Fortson -- 12%
Toney -- 24.7%

So by that metric, Mahomes actually 'trusts' Moore a pretty fair amount or at the very least isn't shying away from him. And boy howdy, watch out for Toney next year.

Now you see Watson's 10.8% and say "man, Mahomes never actually goes to him with the ball, why's he playing??" You know what Watson's averaged depth of target is? 21 freakin' yards downfield!

So to the 'Moore will replace Watson next season' crowd - nope. Just zero chance of that. Watson is being used almost exclusively as a deep threat. Watson and MVS are actually being used in similar roles. Meanwhile the WR who's ADOT and usage rates are the closest to Moore? You guessed it - JJSS.

[RunKC]

Nate Taylor said the postseason will be interesting. If he has a Sammy Watkins type postseason his value will jump bc “other teams be watching at that point”.

So yeah a somewhat fair deal might be something to shoot for now but maybe not for long

[O.city]

Fangio is a pattern match guy. He's not a "cover 2 guy".

[O.city]

He's running right down the seam. It wasn't a crosser I don't believe. It was thrown behind him, probably should have been caught but would have been a tough catch.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

He's running right down the seam. It wasn't a crosser I don't believe. It was thrown behind him, probably should have been caught but would have been a tough catch.

Yeah, not a true crosser - more of a skinny post.

But he'd started his shoulder turn before the ball was there so it wasn't like he needed to completely re-align his body. Frankly he did exactly what he needed to do to catch the ball - he just let it get too far into his body.

[O.city]

Look at it this way.

Would you rather have JJSS at his price point, or send a 3rd to the Saints and pay about that for Ryan Ramczyk?

[O.city]

There are gonna be a ton of good players flooding the market this year, with some of these teams and their cap space.

The Chiefs currently sit with the 9th most cap space in 23. How are some of these teams this bad at managing this?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

There are gonna be a ton of good players flooding the market this year, with some of these teams and their cap space.

The Chiefs currently sit with the 9th most cap space in 23. How are some of these teams this bad at managing this?

We may be 9th now, but what are we after we extend Sneed, Chris and Orlando? Gotta think that would take up a lot of money.

FA is just not worth it most of the time. I don’t think it will be this year with the lackluster options.

Get your value guys like Reid, Dunlap and MVS and look to the draft for your talent.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We may be 9th now, but what are we after we extend Sneed, Chris and Orlando? Gotta think that would take up a lot of money.

FA is just not worth it most of the time. I don’t think it will be this year with the lackluster options.

Get your value guys like Reid, Dunlap and MVS and look to the draft for your talent.

We haven't gotten into Pat's money thing, or Clark off the books either.

They'll have money to play with if they want. There will be alot of guys out there looking for a place to win, so that should help.

Is it a "draft for your talent" then not play them in their second year kinda thing ?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

We haven't gotten into Pat's money thing, or Clark off the books either.

They'll have money to play with if they want. There will be alot of guys out there looking for a place to win, so that should help.

Is it a "draft for your talent" then not play them in their second year kinda thing ?

I’d have to see the chart from that tweet but IIRC the Chiefs draft class was top 5 in the NFL in rookie snaps taken.

So that’s…acceptable