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Old 03-29-2023, 02:47 PM   #1
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No.

But is it any better if he was ACTUALLY hurt? During the postseason. For the second year in a row?

There's no scenario whereby he comes off that whole situation and has standing for substantial guarantees.
Effectively no.

He's just getting a lot of dirt thrown on his name. Some of it is earned, but a lot isn't.
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Old 03-29-2023, 02:49 PM   #2
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Effectively no.

He's just getting a lot of dirt thrown on his name. Some of it is earned, but a lot isn't.
I suppose that's fair, then.

Being injury prone is better than being a malingerer at least when it comes to public perception.

But yeah - it's no better/worse when it comes to your actual value on the market.
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Effectively no.

He's just getting a lot of dirt thrown on his name. Some of it is earned, but a lot isn't.
What dirt being thrown on his name isn't earned? He's a limited, often injured QB with a questionable intellect and without any proven success in the playoffs. The fact that he thinks he should be paid more guaranteed money than Mahomes and Allen is laughable. Teams are looking to pay him for what his current performance level is not based on one fluky MVP season that happened 5 years ago.

I hope he sits out this year. Dumbass can barely form a coherent sentence and is stupid enough to think he doesn't need an agent so I guarantee he doesn't understand the time value of money.
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Old 03-29-2023, 03:10 PM   #4
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What dirt being thrown on his name isn't earned? He's a limited, often injured QB with a questionable intellect and without any proven success in the playoffs. The fact that he thinks he should be paid more guaranteed money than Mahomes and Allen is laughable. Teams are looking to pay him for what his current performance level is not based on one fluky MVP season that happened 5 years ago.

I hope he sits out this year. Dumbass can barely form a coherent sentence and is stupid enough to think he doesn't need an agent so I guarantee he doesn't understand the time value of money.


But seriously, though, did you miss the exchange between me and DJ that you quoted? Lol.

Some people think he purposely sat out of a playoff run to preserve his health for contract negotiations. It doesn't make a difference whether he was legitimately injured or sitting out for contract negotiation purposes, but it does make a difference when judging the man so I think it's important to note that we are not certain that he actually did sit out when he could have played at a high level.
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But seriously, though, did you miss the exchange between me and DJ that you quoted? Lol.

Some people think he purposely sat out of a playoff run to preserve his health for contract negotiations. It doesn't make a difference whether he was legitimately injured or sitting out for contract negotiation purposes, but it does make a difference when judging the man so I think it's important to note that we are not certain that he actually did sit out when he could have played at a high level.
No, we're not certain, but his expected absence was extended in a way that would make it awfully coincidental.

I don't think it's crazy to say that Lamar was very likley closer to 100% than Mahomes was in the AFCCG.
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No, we're not certain, but his expected absence was extended in a way that would make it awfully coincidental.

I don't think it's crazy to say that Lamar was very likley closer to 100% than Mahomes was in the AFCCG.
That's a damn fine point.

I guess the answer would be that it could easily be a combination of both. He wasn't healthy, nor did he truly WANT to go on the field in that condition. Whereas Mahomes WAS healthy but short of amputation, he was getting on that field.

Even with amputation I could see him giving it a go in warmups...
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That's a damn fine point.

I guess the answer would be that it could easily be a combination of both. He wasn't healthy, nor did he truly WANT to go on the field in that condition. Whereas Mahomes WAS healthy but short of amputation, he was getting on that field.

Even with amputation I could see him giving it a go in warmups...
And I know that people will pretend it's because Mahomes already got paid, but we saw he had that in him on his rookie deal too.
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And I know that people will pretend it's because Mahomes already got paid, but we saw he had that in him on his rookie deal too.
But his money isn't guaranteed, Staylor.

So is it even real money?

If you're someone that says Mahomes !@#$ed Jackson by not demanding his contract be fully guaranteed, I'd better not hear boo about Mahomes already having the bag and that's why he played.

Because those two positions do not reconcile even a little bit.

But I'll bet you anything that the venn diagrams of people who hold both beliefs almost completely overlap...
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But seriously, though, did you miss the exchange between me and DJ that you quoted? Lol.

Some people think he purposely sat out of a playoff run to preserve his health for contract negotiations. It doesn't make a difference whether he was legitimately injured or sitting out for contract negotiation purposes, but it does make a difference when judging the man so I think it's important to note that we are not certain that he actually did sit out when he could have played at a high level.
He was healthy enough to play and give the team a better shot to win that Huntley. He might not have been able to run around like a pseudo running back playing QB, but he was healthier than Mahomes was in the second half of the Bengals game. I think teams understand what motivates Lamar and winning a championship isn't it.
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He was healthy enough to play and give the team a better shot to win that Huntley. He might not have been able to run around like a pseudo running back playing QB, but he was healthier than Mahomes was in the second half of the Bengals game. I think teams understand what motivates Lamar and winning a championship isn't it.
How do you determine any of this? Was there some medical report I missed?

The only damning thing Lamar did - in my view - was fail to travel with his team to the playoff game. I thought that was really poor form after he had made the exact trip the prior week.
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How do you determine any of this? Was there some medical report I missed?

The only damning thing Lamar did - in my view - was fail to travel with his team to the playoff game. I thought that was really poor form after he had made the exact trip the prior week.
Especially for a QB. Stuff like that matters when offering a huge contract to someone who by nature of position is expected to be a leader of the team.
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How do you determine any of this? Was there some medical report I missed?

The only damning thing Lamar did - in my view - was fail to travel with his team to the playoff game. I thought that was really poor form after he had made the exact trip the prior week.
He’s actually addressed this recently:
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He’s actually addressed this recently:
PCL inflated?

This guy is an utter moron.
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He’s actually addressed this recently:
His PCL got "inflated". They inserted a bike pump into his knee and pumped it up apparently.

And this guy is representing himself instead of hiring an agent...
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No, we're not certain, but his expected absence was extended in a way that would make it awfully coincidental.

I don't think it's crazy to say that Lamar was very likley closer to 100% than Mahomes was in the AFCCG.
I have two issues with what you’re saying here:

1) You’re comparing Lamar to Patrick ****ing Mahomes. You simply cannot compare any QB to Patrick Mahomes in a fair and just world.

2) You’re comparing an ankle injury to a knee injury. Even if Mahomes was “more injured” than Lamar at that point, the risk of further injury for an ankle sprain and a knee sprain are just not in the same ball park of severity. Had things gone left and taken a turn for the worst, Mahomes would still have 100% chance of being ready for the 2023 season. If things went South for Lamar, a major knee injury could have resulted in him being unable to start his 2023 season on schedule.

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He was healthy enough to play and give the team a better shot to win that Huntley. He might not have been able to run around like a pseudo running back playing QB, but he was healthier than Mahomes was in the second half of the Bengals game. I think teams understand what motivates Lamar and winning a championship isn't it.
I’m with Twisted on this one. There’s no way you can know any of this. It’s all baseless speculation.

He also addressed this a bit recently:



Obviously he could be lying, but it sounds like he would have played had he felt like he was close enough to 100%. None of us know about how his injury affected his ability. He knows far better than anyone here.
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