A Level Headed Review Week 2 2023

[DenverChief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Let me help you out here, Jawaan didn't start playing football in the NFL this season, he will figure it out.

Your take on this is a massive overreaction.

My “take” was a question. Not a statement, a “take” or any other factual comment. It was designed to spur conversation not critique. You are having a massive over reaction to a question.

Regardless of how long he has been playing …the NFL could decide it’s not right and make the Chiefs lives miserable with penalties. The question was if an adjustment couldn’t be made acceptably (by the NFL) what do we do? That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading into things.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DenverChief

My “take” was a question. Not a statement, a “take” or any other factual comment. It was designed to spur conversation not critique. You are having a massive over reaction to a question.

Regardless of how long he has been playing …the NFL could decide it’s not right and make the Chiefs lives miserable with penalties. The question was if an adjustment couldn’t be made acceptably (by the NFL) what do we do? That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. Stop reading into things.

I thought we were supposed to be having a level headed discussion? Why couldn't he make the necessary adjustments, why is that even a question?

Here is some data for you from his career. (stolen from an Athletic article)

Taylor’s struggles a surprise
The Jaguars’ 2019 second-round pick yielded a 3.3 percent pressure rate and one sack during Weeks 14-18 last season. The average rate for tackles sat at 5.5 percent during that span, so Taylor kept Trevor Lawrence well-protected. Taylor should be doing the same for Patrick Mahomes.

And even though this is more about the stretch run of last season, just one more set of numbers to prove Taylor’s significance and improvement. Taylor’s 2.5 percent pressure rate allowed last season ranked fourth among all tackles (left or right), continuing a trend of steady growth. Here’s a look at Taylor’s pressure rates over the past three seasons:

2020: 8.0 percent (fifth worst among tackles)
2021: 4.8 percent
2022: 2.5 percent
So his struggles through two weeks have been a bit baffling. — Holder

[KobesPilot]

Jawaan has had more penalties than any other linemen, this was an achievement he brought to KC. Guarantee this guy ****s up the cruicial play in the playoffs. Surely there is someone better they could get for the same amount of money.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by KobesPilot

Jawaan has had more penalties than any other linemen, this was an achievement he brought to KC. Guarantee this guy ****s up the cruicial play in the playoffs. Surely there is someone better they could get for the same amount of money.

It was a non-issue until Collinsworth decided it was an issue. Ergo, the league now targets him.

[A Salt Weapon]

Originally Posted by bobbything

It was a non-issue until Collinsworth decided it was an issue. Ergo, the league now targets him.

Pretty much, collinsworth has hated the Chiefs for decades, he was successful with all the Kareem Hunt chatter, tried again with Hill, he’ll latch onto anything that might hurt our success.

[KobesPilot]

Also, nobody talked about Jawaan during the previous season because he played for a shit franchise, he is no longer on a shit franchise. Defending champs have someone on the Oline who gets 4-5 penalties in one game all from him? looks pretty stupid. NFL is a bottom line business it's a miracle this dude has made it this far.

[Rasputin]

If we eliminate bad football and play good football we will win more games.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

If we eliminate bad football and play good football we will win more games.

SCIENCE!

[Rainbarrel]

Zay Flowers and Bryan Cook will be on a special Law & Order SVU

[Buehler445]

I was really impressed with the Defense. They were the toughest unit out of all of them in some really horrid conditions and playing a shitload of snaps. Holy shit. That’s not what I expected. That’s also not what I’ve seen in a long long time.

Maybe Jacksonville sucks

Offense needs to happen or this boat don’t float. I still have every confidence it will, but the execution was ****ing ugly.

Kelce looked hobbled at the end. Hopefully he can recover.

Hopefully we rape the Bears for a half and get the offense right and then rest guys. But we know that won’t happen because we never blow anyone out.

[Calcountry]

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Defense is looking really good.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

I only saw the highlights and we had three turnovers in the first half on the road and still had the lead?, how did that happen? Dick Vermeil’s head is probably exploding.

Because we are now THIS:



The 49ers had the #1 defense in the 1980s.

It is a vastly undersold and underrated part of their dynasty.

Great offenses make great teams. But dynasties ALWAYS have ONE THING in common.

DEFENSE



A storm is coming.

[Wallcrawler]

Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Nobody going to point out that if the Jaguars receivers could handle the complexity of keeping their feet in bounds/toe tapping, Sunshine's stat line has him eviscerating the Kansas City Chiefs for multiple scores?

All things being equal, Jacksonville beat themselves.

Dont get me wrong, it's great to see a traditionally slow starting Spags unit that doesn't start slow or just drop its panties in the redzone for 7, and definitely raised the difficulty level, but these young receivers for the Jags, they are the MVPs for KC. 0/4 redzone for the Jags. Half step better on the offense, those are big touchdowns. Good on the defense for making those plays difficult plays and not cakewalks.

The sheer refusal to run the football in the first half is concerning. Andy has got to be better in balancing this out. Started the second half with a bang, huge run by Pacheco, followed instantly by Andy grabbing his own ballsack and squeezing hard, throwing ****ing Clyde in there for a run on the ensuing play to just bring everything back to a screeching halt. I'll never understand why this receiver keeps getting snaps at running back for rushes. He's a receiver. That's it.

It was nice to see Andy finally take that HUGE gamble, and just run behind the best interior line in football for one yard with Pacheco.

Teams are wise to all of this cute shit, because this is two weeks in a row all of the artsy fartsy pirouettes and dancing in around in grandma's panties has simply ended with a massive haymaker to the jaw by the defense with the play utterly, hilariously destroyed and seemingly the d saw it coming a mile away.

Sometimes, you just need to line the **** up, and just play ****ing football. Stop going for the sucker punch and just go straight ahead. Andy outsmarting himself on every third and short is excruciating. I have NEVER seen a team convert so poorly on and 1 distance, with the alleged best play designer in NFL history. Give me 3rd and 15 over 3rd and 1 every time. Just take 3 delays, and hit the 27 hard gainer to move the sticks.

It was a sloppy game. 3 turnovers in a half usually gets you beat, but Jax looked very poor today also.

It was good to see the pass rush getting after Lawrence. Chris Jones unfortunate combination of both greed and stupidity has resulted in a situation where he's gonna have to perform at the highest of levels every week, just to break even with what he would have gotten if he'd just reported from the jump, which is a massive boost to that defense. He was on limited snaps today, which has to be frustrating when you're jumping off the screen and you have incentives to meet.

Kelce and Oluakon had some things to say after the game with Mahomes having to step between the two. Kelce out of sorts and clearly not 100%, and two 15 yard penalties called on him today, invoking memories of a younger more hot-headed version of him. Not sure what he has going on, but he's been short tempered all through camp as well. Hope he can get it in check. It's definitely not the same guy we watched last season emotionally.

As they say, a win is a win. Another week to get things cleaned up, and another opponent we should handle if we play Chiefs football.

As for Taylor, he will adjust and be fine. The crew in this game didn't want their asses cooked by the league office for not flagging the guy they sent a tape out about. Line up one step forward, and stop with the early jump shit. The holding call on him was atrocious. The league got their little crackdown they wanted, and things should loosen up with the blatant targeting going forward.

Better balance of run and pass, and emphasis on ball security this week should be the main points, and send Travis to anger management.

This spags D should feast on Justin Fields next week.

Part of playing good D is using the boundary lines as an extra defender. Squeeze WRs to the boundaries is a fundamental part of modern defense. Gives them less area to operate and since push outs are not a auto catch anymore it gives the DBs a bit of an advantage.