Left Tackles

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Guyton seems to be the one most likely to be available to us who might be a nice fit here. I've seen some folks suggest Fuaga will get that far but I'm not seeing it.

The Yale kid seems kinda interesting as an early 3rd day developmental possibility but man its just so rare to get anything out of those guys, especially at LT.

Tackle seems to be a position that most teams have a pretty solid feel for. If you can do it, you'll go no later than Day 2.

The Yale guy seems to have rocketed up boards. He looked like a R3 guy but now I'm seeing him go R2. In all honesty it takes me back to my original thinking. The depth probably isn't all it was made out to be.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

The Yale guy seems to have rocketed up boards. He looked like a R3 guy but now I'm seeing him go R2. In all honesty it takes me back to my original thinking. The depth probably isn't all it was made out to be.

He's not as much rocketing up as he is returning from the rocket down when he got injured this year. There were some chattering about 1st round potential. He's athletic as hell with absolutely elite arm length and is solid in both facets. The only concern, really, is level of competition because you can coach up the technique flaws.

I've been contemplating the juggling of balls here between WR, DT, and OT. I'd have no reservations saying that I'd hope for him in the 2nd round, especially if DT is adequately resolved in FA. The major sticker is what does Reid and Co think of Wanya Morris? We don't think highly as a collective but that may not be what the brass thinks.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He's not as much rocketing up as he is returning from the rocket down when he got injured this year. There were some chattering about 1st round potential. He's athletic as hell with absolutely elite arm length and is solid in both facets. The only concern, really, is level of competition because you can coach up the technique flaws.

I've been contemplating the juggling of balls here between WR, DT, and OT. I'd have no reservations saying that I'd hope for him in the 2nd round, especially if DT is adequately resolved in FA. The major sticker is what does Reid and Co think of Wanya Morris? We don't think highly as a collective but that may not be what the brass thinks.

Yeah - I'm almost always late to the table on guys with bad platform years because I can't claim to be so looped in that I remember what happened with those dudes their junior years.

Someone like 'Tez Walker is a bit of an outlier for me but mostly because I looked him up when all the news was swirling around him in NC so I had him on my radar already.

But thats why I had no idea who Danna was when we took him - I had no working knowledge of his Junior year until people started talking about it after we drafted him and I could see why we did what we did.

And we know how thorough Veach is on those guys (it's how he got Sneed as well). So if the Yale kid had a great Junior tape and struggled as a Senior, you're probably right - the Chiefs are probably all over him. They're really really good at digging deeper on a lot of these kids.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He's not as much rocketing up as he is returning from the rocket down when he got injured this year. There were some chattering about 1st round potential. He's athletic as hell with absolutely elite arm length and is solid in both facets. The only concern, really, is level of competition because you can coach up the technique flaws.

I've been contemplating the juggling of balls here between WR, DT, and OT. I'd have no reservations saying that I'd hope for him in the 2nd round, especially if DT is adequately resolved in FA. The major sticker is what does Reid and Co think of Wanya Morris? We don't think highly as a collective but that may not be what the brass thinks.

Very intrigued by the Yale guy as well.

Did he play Senior Bowl or just practice? Because the athletic profile looks promising but agree that its comes down to how he plays against competition which you won't see at Yale.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Very intrigued by the Yale guy as well.

Did he play Senior Bowl or just practice? Because the athletic profile looks promising but agree that its comes down to how he plays against competition which you won't see at Yale.

There are a lot of large, athletic, powerful but very raw OTs in this class.

If you're going OT in the first, it's a scouting/coaching decision. There's not gonna be a slam-dunk pick at that point in the draft. But you can probably find a guy with the tools to play LT (not a lot of dudes have those) and attempt to coach them up over the coming season.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

There are a lot of large, athletic, powerful but very raw OTs in this class.

If you're going OT in the first, it's a scouting/coaching decision. There's not gonna be a slam-dunk pick at that point in the draft. But you can probably find a guy with the tools to play LT (not a lot of dudes have those) and attempt to coach them up over the coming season.

I agree, there's some quality depth and guys that could develop.

How about Dominich Puni from KU? 90.5% pass protection grade on PFF, he's young too. Christian Jones showed out at the Sr Bowl. Jalen Sundell from North Dokota 89.7% pass protection grade. Javon Foster had the the most consistent 80%+ overall performance grade over a 3 year period. Mel Kiper likes Isaiah Adams from Illinois. I've mentioned Zion as a reclamation project also.

But I'm curious which of these OTs that might be available at the bottom of the 1st is a plug and play starter game 1 next season?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I agree, there's some quality depth and guys that could develop.

How about Dominich Puni from KU? 90.5% pass protection grade on PFF, he's young too. Christian Jones showed out at the Sr Bowl. Jalen Sundell from North Dokota 89.7% pass protection grade. Javon Foster had the the most consistent 80%+ overall performance grade over a 3 year period. Mel Kiper likes Isaiah Adams from Illinois. I've mentioned Zion as a reclamation project also.

But I'm curious which of these OTs that might be available at the bottom of the 1st is a plug and play starter game 1 next season?

I'm not sure Puni's an OT at the next level. At least probably not a LT. I dunno that I see the length or athleticism to pull it off.

That said, in the 3rd round, a guy who might be an OT but can be a really safe bet to convert to a strong pass-blocking IOL wouldn't be the worst outcome. But I don't think you've 'solved' the OT problem with him or any of the rest of the guys you've mentioned there. Adams as a late 3rd day pick is intriguing from a developmental standpoint but I think you're looking at a 2 year development period there.