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Old 06-11-2024, 10:08 AM   #1
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Toney's big sin is that his lack of focus resulted in turnovers and losses. And he's always hurt.

Don't really need to add on more to it than that.
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Old 06-11-2024, 10:27 AM   #2
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A: Start of Season

1. Brown
2. Watson
3. Worthy
4. Hardman
5. Moore
6. Toney
7. Remigio

I think they'll give Toney a chance out of the gate, especially if Rice starts the season suspended. Idea here would be he gets a trial with Rice out, and if he doesn't do much with it, you move on at that point. Same thing with Moore.

B: End of Season

1. Brown
2. Rice
3. Worthy
4. Watson
5. Hardman
6. Remigio

I'm seeing them tighten things up here, basically, as the season goes on.
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Old 06-11-2024, 10:28 AM   #3
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I'd have a lot more confidence in Toney if he ever once demonstrated that football is his highest priority and greatness was his goal. There are a few examples of really good NFL players that got there with less than great focus and work ethic, even with superior physical traits. He has never demonstrated winning characteristics, and I don't think he starts now. Likely cut at some point in the season.
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Old 06-11-2024, 10:47 AM   #4
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I'd have a lot more confidence in Toney if he ever once demonstrated that football is his highest priority and greatness was his goal. There are a few examples of really good NFL players that got there with less than great focus and work ethic, even with superior physical traits. He has never demonstrated winning characteristics, and I don't think he starts now. Likely cut at some point in the season.
He’s just fascinating because the dude plays tough and runs violently. Including the way he cuts. It’s actually probably the reason he can’t stay healthy. So I don’t know if we can even pin it on him not trying. I think it’s way more a focus thing and it’s on the field more than it is off it.
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Old 06-11-2024, 12:11 PM   #5
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He’s just fascinating because the dude plays tough and runs violently. Including the way he cuts. It’s actually probably the reason he can’t stay healthy. So I don’t know if we can even pin it on him not trying. I think it’s way more a focus thing and it’s on the field more than it is off it.
I think the problem is not trying on the field, it's the many facets of preparation during the week and off season in whuch he fails. That has kept him from being what he could be
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Old 06-11-2024, 10:29 AM   #6
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Hot take: I think they trade Skyy for a day 3 pick in August. Some team will want to try with him being a 2nd rd pick (yes as dumb as that is it matters).
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Old 06-11-2024, 12:05 PM   #8
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Old 06-11-2024, 02:05 PM   #9
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Yep. It would be one thing if he flashed above average atheleticism or size ....Not sure any a GM would see his tape and say "we can work him into our offense."
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Old 06-11-2024, 11:44 AM   #10
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I like Watson but he’s gotta be a role player when you want to take an aggressive first or second down mid range shot. He’s too inconsistent to be anything else. I especially love him on early down long yardage situations. But there can clearly be a good place for him
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Watson is an ideal 4th WR. Everyone wants to run him off for whatever reason.
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Watson is an ideal 4th WR. Everyone wants to run him off for whatever reason.
More like a 5 or 6 but he's a depth piece.
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More like a 5 or 6 but he's a depth piece.
Teams don't run 5 deep at WR.

He knows where to line up and can get open in a pinch. AKA 4th/5th whatever you wanna call it.

He also plays special teams.
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Teams don't run 5 deep at WR.

He knows where to line up and can get open in a pinch. AKA 4th/5th whatever you wanna call it.

He also plays special teams.
Those are usually 5s or 6s unless you are carrying a guy who literally doesn't play at all.
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Watson is an ideal 4th WR. Everyone wants to run him off for whatever reason.
I think our lack of quality depth forced him to go beyond his role. He’s ideally not a target eater. I dont know that he’s the guy you dial up for a critical 3rd down. But he’s a guy you can attack with some big play opps a few times a game.
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