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Old 07-22-2024, 06:13 PM   #1
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He was 'elite' for his last 8 games. The previous 19 games he was on the verge of being a bust, or so I was told repeatedly.
Yea his "elite" play is still a very small sample size. He may be a stud in the end and I think he could be but its a hell of a gamble to pay him now.
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Old 07-22-2024, 06:25 PM   #2
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Yea his "elite" play is still a very small sample size. He may be a stud in the end and I think he could be but its a hell of a gamble to pay him now.
And the alternative is? Trading him? C’mon man
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Old 07-22-2024, 06:28 PM   #3
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And the alternative is? Trading him? C’mon man
No the alternative is making him play on his contract this year. No idea why you think its pay him or trade him. He doesn't have any leverage.

How big a contract on the open market would Love get right now today? It aint $50MM a year.
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Old 07-22-2024, 06:14 PM   #4
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He was 'elite' for his last 8 games. The previous 19 games he was on the verge of being a bust, or so I was told repeatedly.
I'm just talking from a talent/traits perspective. I'm not at all saying he's there yet, but he certainly flashed just that last year.
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Old 07-22-2024, 06:08 PM   #5
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Heck, maybe GB should threaten to trade him. Look at that list of teams that could be in the market. Is he really going to want to end up in the AFC-E/AFC-N/AFC-W? In the AFC at all, for that matter with Mahomes reigning supreme for likely the next ten years and probably more?

Meanwhile, I doubt ARI will be in the market after forking over the dumbass contract they just gave Kyler.

WAS probably won't be asking anytime soon, and even if they do, they're in the NFC-E with PHI and DAL.

DET just paid Goff $50M so they're out.

About the only teams that might be worth it to Love would be what, the Titans or the Bucs if Levis and Baker don't work out by 2025?

I mean, if he wants the $$$ that badly, maybe trade him for a shit-ton of picks/players and let him go try to be successful with one of those teams. Good luck to ya, pal.
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Old 07-22-2024, 06:12 PM   #6
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Just look at the landscape of the NFC long term.

The 49ers have a small window, as do the Eagles. Stafford will be retiring soon. The Lions aren't going to sustain their success beyond a couple more years with a guy like Goff at QB.

The Bears are the only team other than the Packers that are set up to have a 5-6 year window with some potentially great QB play. I just don't see any reason not to roll the dice on the guy.
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Old 07-22-2024, 06:36 PM   #8
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Just look at the landscape of the NFC long term.

The 49ers have a small window, as do the Eagles. Stafford will be retiring soon. The Lions aren't going to sustain their success beyond a couple more years with a guy like Goff at QB.

The Bears are the only team other than the Packers that are set up to have a 5-6 year window with some potentially great QB play. I just don't see any reason not to roll the dice on the guy.


$50M/yr is a pretty expensive roll of the dice on 8 games is all I'm saying. I mean, I get why they would pay him that kind of $$$. Just saying I wouldn't.
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$50M/yr is a pretty expensive roll of the dice on 8 games is all I'm saying. I mean, I get why they would pay him that kind of $$$. Just saying I wouldn't.
He plays well this year he can guarantee the $50MM per after this season.

I wonder if he wouldn't agree to take a big increase on his deal this year and look for a new deal next year.

Edit: just checked and they show $28MM in cap space. I might eat $10MM of that to bump Loves pay to buy another year of evaluation.
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He plays well this year he can guarantee the $50MM per after this season.

I wonder if he wouldn't agree to take a big increase on his deal this year and look for a new deal next year.

Edit: just checked and they show $28MM in cap space. I might eat $10MM of that to bump Loves pay to buy another year of evaluation.


That's kind of where I was going earlier. Give him some kind of extension that gives him a big increase this year, and somehow structure it so the team has an out after 2025 or whatever. I just wouldn't throw a long super-expensive deal on the table just because he found his ass for 8 games, possibly hamstringing my franchise for the next 5+ years if he regresses back to 'almost a bust' status.
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$50M/yr is a pretty expensive roll of the dice on 8 games is all I'm saying. I mean, I get why they would pay him that kind of $$$. Just saying I wouldn't.
It's a roll of the dice if you're paying just about any QB that isn't Mahomes or Allen these days. Stroud probably too eventually.

All of these guys, even Burrow and Lamar, were risky contracts.

Lawrence didn't just get paid what he did because of how he's played. All of the guys in that tier are getting paid for what you hope they continue to grow into. I don't see a significant difference between paying Love and a guy like Lawrence. I actually feel better about Love growin into a QB worthy of that money.

I'd be much more concerned about the small sample size if Love didn't have the athleticism, talent, and tools to be great.
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Yeah, the issue is, none of the QBs in this tier or even near this tier ever hit the open market at this age. So it’s absolutely impossible to peg what their value would be because you can’t use any of the existing contracts as those weren’t fully open market deals.

Lamar is as close as it’s comes and any team that would’ve signed him would’ve had to give up 2 1’s. And that’s, uh, a big deal.

I’m not surprised the Love discussions are complicated. He did exactly what he was supposed to do in a limited sample size and I’m sure he’s trying to negotiate off of that being the norm while the Packers are applying some discount.

I think it’s similar to Trevor Lawrence but at least the Lawrence body of work has more data points. The flip side is we’ve seen the Lawrence inconsistency with high highs and somewhat low lows while Love really only truly excelled to this level late in the season.
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