Pete Prisco's take on the Chiefs Offense

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you wanna say they're pulling the reigns a bit because of injuries, sure, I'd buy that.

But the other stuff? Nah. They're not playing how they want on offense.

Pretty obvious that a lot of the playbook was cut out with the losses of Rice and Hollywood. Losing Pacheco and relying on Steele for a few weeks didn’t help. They also had a massive problem at LT with Kingsley which has slowly gotten better.

But it’s still painfully obvious that Andy is running old plays. In the playoffs they have new wrinkles added that they don’t show in the regular season.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Pretty obvious that a lot of the playbook was cut out with the losses of Rice and Hollywood. Losing Pacheco and relying on Steele for a few weeks didn’t help. They also had a massive problem at LT with Kingsley which has slowly gotten better.

But it’s still painfully obvious that Andy is running old plays. In the playoffs they have new wrinkles added that they don’t show in the regular season.

I agree, but….. the issue was that early in the season you can see mahomes and Reid putting an emphasis on opening up the offense. Even with better pieces mahomes looks like he’s missing that gear he used to have. He was double clutching, holding onto the ball, skittish in the pocket, tunnel vision to the lower ADOTs. It’s not alarming, it just feels like something mahomes needs to work through. While we may limit our sets, Reid and spags will often find things to work on and make them points of emphasis early on.

What we did in NO will work. But I think we’ll will regress to a mean to ugly games like earlier in the year. We have the defense and running game to manage games this way. But I’d st

[gordonelloyd]

I don’t think they are holding back like the LeBron analogy. They had plans to have a great offence to complement an elite defense, but injuries stood in the way. So they are basically taking what they are given, they are also playing poorly in a relative sense with the excessive number of giveaways, penalties, and in some of the games, bad decisions by Mahomes. Given their injury situation at WR and the talent they have at RB (amazing how hunt came in when Pacheco went down) and the fact they have an elite defense, they have definitely turned to more of a running game.

But this is all about doing what makes the most sense in the situation that they are currently in , in my view, and not about purposefully holding back. True. Mahomes is not taking as many chances with his health as he used to because he has matured as a quarterback and realizes he doesn’t have to, and that it is risky.

All that has come together, and we are undefeated, despite many close calls. If our offence had of been able to live up to its potential before the injuries, this team would’ve been an unbelievable juggernaut.

If we beat San Francisco, and I certainly believe we can and will, I don’t see who’s going to defeat us this year. I can’t imagine we’ll go undefeated so someone will. But it will be
A trap game or a game at the end of the season when we are playing all substitutes because we don’t need to win.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

They aren't holding shit back. They're just winning a different way. End of story.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

They're not executing or scoring how they want no, but what I'm saying is Andy isn't gonna show his best cards in October in order to make it better.

They'll either clean it up with penalties and execution or they won't, but either way, they save wrinkles and new stuff for gotta have it moments.

They do it every year. They'll run that same FB trap play every damn time on 4th and 1, and then it'll be late in the AFCCG and they'll have some spin off of it we've never seen that works to perfection.

I mean even corn dog was a relatively new thing.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

They're not executing or scoring how they want no, but what I'm saying is Andy isn't gonna show his best cards in October in order to make it better.

They'll either clean it up with penalties and execution or they won't, but either way, they save wrinkles and new stuff for gotta have it moments.

They do it every year. They'll run that same FB trap play every damn time on 4th and 1, and then it'll be late in the AFCCG and they'll have some spin off of it we've never seen that works to perfection.

I mean even corn dog was a relatively new thing.

Corn dog was shown one time in 2022. Mahomes did not run on option plays until the SB last year (4th and 1 OT play), McKinnon wasn’t used as a FB until the Eagles SB, the awesome Pacheco 4th and 1 play in Eagles SB where everybody pulled to the left wasn’t used until that play and the Hardman play to win it all wasn’t used until then either.

They have shit they keep ready for the right time. I saw them in camp do a wrinkle with corn dog with Rice where he started to go outside but then quickly turned inside again.

Andy ain’t showing his cards until it’s time

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Being aggressive on offense is great until suddenly you throw a pick at your own 30 and give your awesome defense very little to work with. Suddenly the awesome defense doesn't look so awesome anymore. That was the whole story of last year.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Being aggressive on offense is great until suddenly you throw a pick at your own 30 and give your awesome defense very little to work with. Suddenly the awesome defense doesn't look so awesome anymore. That was the whole story of last year.

Interesting take. I don't recall the Chiefs offense being particularly aggressive last season. I do recall them being the worst 2nd half offense in the league. One of the worst on 3rd and long. One of the lowest scoring offenses in the league. I recall Pat's ADOT being one of the lowest in the league in 2023.


But I don't remember them being very aggressive. Is there a link to an article or some vids I can look at?

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Interesting take. I don't recall the Chiefs offense being particularly aggressive last season. I do recall them being the worst 2nd half offense in the league. One of the worst on 3rd and long. One of the lowest scoring offenses in the league. I recall Pat's ADOT being one of the lowest in the league in 2023.


But I don't remember them being very aggressive. Is there a link to an article or some vids I can look at?

Maybe aggressive is the wrong word.

We couldn't protect the football last year. And were also not doing a great job protecting the football this year. And what's the one thing that kills a great defense? Giving them a short field with no time to rest.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Being aggressive on offense is great until suddenly you throw a pick at your own 30 and give your awesome defense very little to work with. Suddenly the awesome defense doesn't look so awesome anymore. That was the whole story of last year.

They've thrown 8 picks this year. You do realize that right?

[tyton75]

When you have 3 RB's that are averaging 3.5 yds a carry or better. (Kareem at 4.5); you are going to be able to win a lot of games with the kind of defense we are playing.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by tyton75

When you have 3 RB's that are averaging 3.5 yds a carry or better. (Kareem at 4.5); you are going to be able to win a lot of games with the kind of defense we are playing.

KC is averaging 3.9yds/carry. Making them 26th in the league in rush yds/carry. Currently, league-average appears to be about 4.7 yds/carry.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

KC is averaging 3.9yds/carry. Making them 26th in the league in rush yds/carry. Currently, league-average appears to be about 4.7 yds/carry.

This is misleading.

The Chiefs are THE BEST in the league on run success rate, eg does your run game get you to 2nd and manageable on a first down carry...

Meaning, does it make it 2nd and 6 or less. We are literally number 1 in the league at that and also converting third and short with runs

However......

We're dead last in explosive runs. The longest run we've had all year is 11 yards (by a back).

So basically, we're lining up, and grounding people into beef and no one can stop that, but we're not getting the big runs. Which really doesn't matter if we're basically holding onto the ball for most of the game and the defense is pulverizing the opponents offense.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

This is misleading.

The Chiefs are THE BEST in the league on run success rate, eg does your run game get you to 2nd and manageable on a first down carry...

Meaning, does it make it 2nd and 6 or less. We are literally number 1 in the league at that and also converting third and short with runs

However......

We're dead last in explosive runs. The longest run we've had all year is 11 yards (by a back).

So basically, we're lining up, and grounding people into beef and no one can stop that, but we're not getting the big runs. Which really doesn't matter if we're basically holding onto the ball for most of the game and the defense is pulverizing the opponents offense.

So Martyball....but with a HOF QB, HOF TE, and receivers capable of stretching the field at any time. Never understood why Andy, in situations where the opponent could not stop the run, would suddenly decide to go pass-first.

[Basileus777]

They don't score a lot of points when they go run heavy, especially since they get no explosive run plays. They're probably holding back some red zone plays, but the idea that this is all by design is a lot of cope.