Chiefs 2024's Red zone failures - Page 4

ThaVirus · 12-02-2024, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

We can’t run well in the red zone because we lack shifty backs and those inside runs are very difficult in the more congested space. We also don’t seem to have any off tackle running plays. Just deciding to run it more isn’t going to fix the issues.

I want to blame it on primarily running out of shotgun.

I’d love to see us run some off tackle, outside zone, and sweeps from under center.

I especially love zone blocking schemes. I feel like it simplifies things. Just ask your linemen to block the guy in front of them. For whatever reason Andy seems to prefer the power blocking scheme so that’s whatever..

At the end of the day, I still think Mahomes un****ing himself is the key. If he starts clicking the way he can/should, the run game is mostly immaterial.

htismaqe · 12-02-2024, 06:12 PM

Jesus could we limit the ****ing Andy Reid rants to just 1 or 2 threads?

Sassy Squatch · 12-02-2024, 07:16 PM

Andy Reid 'stole' the concept that was used to win two Super Bowls back to back. There's, uh, quite a bit more to it than just copying what others do.

Megatron96 · 12-02-2024, 08:19 PM

Now I remember why I put that moron on ignore. Back you go into your box, dipstick. Yeesh, what an idiot.

scho63 · 12-05-2024, 10:08 PM

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Wallcrawler · 12-06-2024, 08:59 AM

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Megatron96 · 12-06-2024, 06:15 PM

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Sorry buddy.

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-King- · 12-06-2024, 04:37 PM

Just heard that the Chiefs have settled for the most field goals in the red zone for any team through 12 weeks since 2018. They also have settled for the most field goals of any Patrick Mahomes team already.

They have to drastically improve that. Hopefully with DJ we can start running better plays down there. And Andy needs to stop settling. I would love to see us to for it more on 4th downs down there

Megatron96 · 12-06-2024, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Just heard that the Chiefs have settled for the most field goals in the red zone for any team through 12 weeks since 2018. They also have settled for the most field goals of any Patrick Mahomes team already.

They have to drastically improve that. Hopefully with DJ we can start running better plays down there. And Andy needs to stop settling. I would love to see us to for it more on 4th downs down there

Meh. I mean, part of it is that Andy tends to try out different plays or player packages during the regular season. Not having Pacheco for months probably also played a part. The OTs playing like ass likely contributed to the lack of success. Just saying, it's probably not just one or two things. Like most things, it was/is probably more of a domino effect of several/many issues that resulted in the current poor performance in the RZ.

Once Humphries get settled in, and Pacheco really gets back in the flow, DHop gets fully involved in the RZ packages, etc. I'm sure we'll see the RZ efficiency start to go back up.

Of course, the keystone of all of that is DJ has to be a significant upgrade in performance over Morris/Kingsley, but I feel like that won't be an issue. It might take a couple three weeks, but DJ will make a big difference, imo.

In the meantime, I wouldn't mind seeing Andy steal some running plays from either DET or TB vs. the gadget stuff he tends to run.

Couch-Potato · 12-06-2024, 05:45 PM

I’d like to see some stats on our red zone success YOY if anyone has a source?

Like others here, I get sick of Andy’s trickery in the red zone and would prefer to just run it up the middle. But I feel like we were worse in the red zone last season, I had hoped that Steele and/or Perine would allow us to punch it over the line with more efficiency but Kareem’s getting that done for us now so all is well.

Chiefs4TheWin · 12-06-2024, 06:08 PM

I like to believe we get too cute in the reg. season to see what works, then turn it on in the playoffs.

However the eye test is just shitty calls in the red zone. That shovel pass hasn't worked in like 2 seasons. Kareem is like a 97% chance of positive yards, so I dunno.

Last season makes me think we're ****ing around, but we **** around with a worse o-line and I dunno if that unit can "flip a switch"

Weird season to judge.

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