What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

This post rocks. It’s everything I’ve been thinking but haven’t been able to get out in the way you just did.

It really felt like today he decided, **** it, IDC what the circumstances suggest, I’m going to hit on some deep throws. At a minimum I’m going to at least look for them as primary reads often.

So many of these regular season games for the offense do have a practice-y feel to them.

But if they start rolling in the playoffs it’s gonna be because they just locked the **** in and started playing free.

Yeah, was it the Bills game where they had the all-Worthy touchdown drive, and I think he got like 1 target the rest of the game... and that happened a bit today, too, even though he had a few other targets the rest of the game.

They did that DHop slant for a touchdown in his first or second game and have very rarely gone back to it, even though you really have to assume that's going to be a go-to in the postseason.

We put hours of thought into trustring receivers, trusting the line, learning the playbook, etc... and then you watch Amari Cooper make an immediate impact while Allen slings it around.

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, was it the Bills game where they had the all-Worthy touchdown drive, and I think he got like 1 target the rest of the game... and that happened a bit today, too, even though he had a few other targets the rest of the game.

They did that DHop slant for a touchdown in his first or second game and have very rarely gone back to it, even though you really have to assume that's going to be a go-to in the postseason.

We put hours of thought into trustring receivers, trusting the line, learning the playbook, etc... and then you watch Amari Cooper make an immediate impact while Allen slings it around.

It shouldn't look THIS difficult for the best quarterback in the league, all things considered.

They honestly do look like playing offense is hard, Mahomes went from being the ****ing Boogeyman against the blitz to now it's 50/50 if the ball even comes out.

[O.city]

They’re not “practicing”

They’re playing shitty.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by O.city

They’re not “practicing”

They’re playing shitty.

Well no shit. But if you’re making a concerted effort to force deep throws even when they aren’t there, then you aren’t staying true to the offense and how’s it’s supposed to be ran. You’re trying to practice something that you haven’t been doing well all year long and the offense is suffering because of it.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Well no shit. But if you’re making a concerted effort to force deep throws even when they aren’t there, then you aren’t staying true to the offense and how’s it’s supposed to be ran. You’re trying to practice something that you haven’t been doing well all year long and the offense is suffering because of it.

Making it worse by trying to do that crap in 25 mph wind mixed with wet ball/rain. Strange approach. Thankfully the KC defense offset those wasted plays by Mahomes & Andy today.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Making it worse by trying to do that crap in 25 mph wind mixed with wet ball/rain. Strange approach. Thankfully the KC defense offset those wasted plays by Mahomes & Andy today.

It truly reminded me of a kid who was bored with his Madden franchise and just decided to throw every down because nothing else sounded fun. And that’s been a lot of the past few weeks really.

Thankfully we didn’t have a day like Detroit losing a bunch more bodies for the year. But the playoffs can’t come fast enough cause I’m not sure anything good can come of these regular season games besides wins anymore.

[Rainbarrel]

It's climate change

[Valiant]

He has never been great. I know there was some wind and moisture out there it seems today. I am going to chalk up the drips and being so off to that.

He needs to learn some touch and let wr run to the ball though.

[UChieffyBugger]

The Hopkins throw today was good imo. And if you think back to the playoffs he had that monumental deep pass to MVS to win the game and in the superbowl that massive throw to Hardman to get us into the ten.

Imo Pat is up and down with his deep passes. Sometimes it's his fault, other times it's not. MVS dropped that one against the Eagles last season too.

This year the Worthy bomb vs The Chargers was also good. It would be interesting to see how they would be if he had a good line around him.

[RunKC]

Gonna be honest here and it sounds weird but it’s true watching the tape: he’s thinking way too much.

He turned the ball over too much early and you can tell he’s purposefully not trying to put the ball in harms way. The overthrows today, especially to Worthy in the endzone, looked like a purposeful overthrow to avoid risk.

Others like the disastrous Worthy overthrow out of bounds vs Denver was due to the OL. His feet were a mess and he sped everything up. Same thing on the miss in SF.

He’s thinking far too much. And he’s also meshing with new players on the fly and it’s tough developing chemistry with a bad OL. And Kelce, Watson and Hopkins are not man-beaters. They can’t get open the way a QB needs guys to get open.

It’s a constant wheel of messiness making the QB think too much.

[crayzkirk]

I hate to say the dreaded word... Yips... Patrick has the yips. When he is thinking about what he is doing instead of reacting to the play, it becomes mechanical and forced. It's like a golfer standing over a chip shot; the practice swing is smooth and when the actual shot occurs, the real swing is short and choppy. I believe he will get out of it.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

I hate to say the dreaded word... Yips... Patrick has the yips. When he is thinking about what he is doing instead of reacting to the play, it becomes mechanical and forced. It's like a golfer standing over a chip shot; the practice swing is smooth and when the actual shot occurs, the real swing is short and choppy. I believe he will get out of it.

Nonsense.

[Demonpenz]

What has happened to D drop

[kccrow]

Mahomes is his own worst enemy right now. He's dropping his eyes to the rush. He's playing sloppy with his mechanics. He's pressing and not going through reads. All kinds of shit. Then you get the added bonus of actual pressure and the issues there and bam... shit sandwich.

The only way I see Mahomes breaking out of this funk is either A) Humphries somehow ends up the savior we all want and Mahomes' jersey stays clean for a couple of weeks in a row or B) the playoffs hit and Mahomes somehow flips a switch into "**** it" mode and just starts playing street ball again. If neither of those happen, I don't see the playoffs going as we hope because this shit is a straight-up disaster right now.