What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[Sassy Squatch]

Mahomes was playing some pretty bad football even with Rice. Actually may have been his worst stretch of the year. Suamataia getting annihilated by the Bengals ****ed his confidence something fierce.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

Mahomes was playing some pretty bad football even with Rice. Actually may have been his worst stretch of the year. Suamataia getting annihilated by the Bengals ****ed his confidence something fierce.

Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason

It feels like a ping pong match. Teams foiled us with 2 deep, we adjusted the next year, defenses adjusted to us which opened up offenses for throw chuckers like stroud and tua, teams throttled back into 2 deep this year.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason

Without a ton of top tier QB options in this draft it should be less expensive to trade up for a legit LT. There are 8 teams that need QB and possibly 2 or 3 QB's worth taking. Some of those teams will want to trade out and nobody is going to pay max price without a QB there to trade up for.

Similar to when KC had the no 1 pick. Now, it won't be that deflated because there actually is talent in this draft and that year might have been the largest talent drought in the last 20 years. It's just an example...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Same exact thing is happening to Stroud. Need to hit OL hard this offseason

Strouds is more to do with the league adjusting to him and Slowik's offense.

[O.city]

Yeah, he focused on Rice, he was always open.

This whole "spread it around to weapons" thing alot of times is speak for "we don't have anyone good so throw it to everyone".

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, he focused on Rice, he was always open.

This whole "spread it around to weapons" thing alot of times is speak for "we don't have anyone good so throw it to everyone".

The problem was he developed tunnel vision. It’s not about spreading out equal targets. It’s about creating just enough credibility in a deep game to open up the rest of our offense. Even with rashee that was badly lacking and over dependence on long plodding drives isn’t always ideal when your OL is extremely error prone and your WRs still drop too many.

I think we can all agree that if Mahomes can be reasonably better throwing to worthy this offense looks very different.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, he focused on Rice, he was always open.

This whole "spread it around to weapons" thing alot of times is speak for "we don't have anyone good so throw it to everyone".

Rice was giving Mahomes what Kelce used to give him. Losing Rashee was devastating for this offense.

I love Kelce to death but he’s not what he was. He’s not breaking tackles for YAC, he’s not consistently beating man coverage. I think Mahomes being off is an underlying Kelce problem. He used to be in a spot where the ball is but now he’s not getting there as fast and it results in a missed throw.

There’s no juice on the offense aside from Worthy and sometimes Pacheco. Kelce, Hopkins, Watson, Juju, Kareem. These guys are old and slow now and it’s painfully obvious.

We need Hollywood back in the worst way

[mr. tegu]

I went back and watched the miss to Worthy in the end zone that happened with 7:50 to go in the second quarter. It’s just an inexcusably bad throw. Any first time starter or seasoned veteran should be making the throw at the very least within reach 9/10 times. He was off by like 10 yards. This play is set up perfectly and he has nobody within 8 yards of him in the pocket. The only explanation is he’s not trusting what’s happening which is Worthy is essentially wide open. Any explanation that puts this on the line or Worthy just isn’t being honest.

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[-King-]

We lost Rice because Mahomes was playing so badly and so turnover prone at the start of the season that he ended up injuring Rice on an interception return. We can't act like things were rosey when Rice was here.

And it was 10 ****ing weeks ago and we replaced him with DHop. We saw the Bills add a WR midseason also and their QB is the MVP favorite.

[stevieray]

Not to mention Kelce has regressed and was Pat's favorite target.

Why a TE was putting up WR numbers.

When Mahomes has time to plant his feet, he's deadly.

[O.city]

I guess we're rolling out the Alex Smith defense of the starting QB now.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by O.city

I guess we're rolling out the Alex Smith defense of the starting QB now.

This.

Was everything around Mahomes that bad yesterday for him not to perform better?

Cleveland got some pressures, but the pass protection wasn’t bad.

Receivers were getting open downfield.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Nick Jacobs echoed what I was posting last night which is that it felt like the offense was trying to work on certain things whether they were there or not, despite having open underneath routes all afternoon, and it wrecked their rhythm in the second half.

It was truly like a boring Madden game to them in the way they approached 2nd half plays, and Mahomes paid a price for it.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Nick Jacobs echoed what I was posting last night which is that it felt like the offense was trying to work on certain things whether they were there or not, despite having open underneath routes all afternoon, and it wrecked their rhythm in the second half.

It was truly like a boring Madden game to them in the way they approached 2nd half plays, and Mahomes paid a price for it.

Echoes what I posted last night. Mahomes is thinking too much.

I watched the deep shot to Watson again on NFL+. The playcall was clearly “get the ball downfield”. The extra blockers was set up for it and Mahomes eyes were on Watson the entire play.

They are treating this like practice instead of just letting Mahomes go through reads.