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Old 01-28-2025, 03:36 PM   #1
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Can you guys please answer something for me? I'm trying to understand how the conspiracy could work, and who would organize it.

Troy Vincent, former CB (including Bills and Eagles), is EVP of Football Operations responsible for: developing the game, ensuring consistency in the rules and officiating, and strengthening the NFL brand. He reports to Commissioner Goodell, who is accountable to the Executive Committee of league owners.

We know that behind any good conspiracy is the motive of money, which means TV ratings and merchandise sales in this case. The primary theory seems to center on Taylor Swift being uniquely good for bringing in new fans and especially for TV ratings, doesn't it? I can't think of any other reasonable angle.

So the either the other owners would have to agree to have Goodell and Vincent pressure refs, which is ludicrous, or those two and their reports would have to conspire independently of the owners, presumably because their compensation is tied to revenue, and the refs would have to get a cut. They would risk losing their positions when inevitably the plot is uncovered because it involves so many players.

Am I doing this right? I just wish one of these idiot reporters would ask someone like Adam Schefter, ok, just tell me exactly how you think this is being done and by whom? Also, I don't understand why the owners and Goodell don't step in and deny access to these fools like Schefter who are damaging the brand of the NFL?

In today's world whether in real life, politics, or sports, you get to just make shit up and keep saying it until a certain percentage of people will start to believe it, especially if it confirms their bias or wishes. I think Orwell wrote a book about that once.
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Old 01-28-2025, 03:38 PM   #2
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I love this. Have a bunch of buddies who are super jealous of the Chiefs. Most of them are Falcons fans, somehow. Anyway I just posted this on our text thread. Can’t wait for responses.
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Old 01-28-2025, 03:40 PM   #4
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Can you guys please answer something for me? I'm trying to understand how the conspiracy could work, and who would organize it.

Troy Vincent, former CB (including Bills and Eagles), is EVP of Football Operations responsible for: developing the game, ensuring consistency in the rules and officiating, and strengthening the NFL brand. He reports to Commissioner Goodell, who is accountable to the Executive Committee of league owners.

We know that behind any good conspiracy is the motive of money, which means TV ratings and merchandise sales in this case. The primary theory seems to center on Taylor Swift being uniquely good for bringing in new fans and especially for TV ratings, doesn't it? I can't think of any other reasonable angle.

So the either the other owners would have to agree to have Goodell and Vincent pressure refs, which is ludicrous, or those two and their reports would have to conspire independently of the owners, presumably because their compensation is tied to revenue, and the refs would have to get a cut. They would risk losing their positions when inevitably the plot is uncovered because it involves so many players.

Am I doing this right? I just wish one of these idiot reporters would ask someone like Adam Schefter, ok, just tell me exactly how you think this is being done and by whom? Also, I don't understand why the owners and Goodell don't step in and deny access to these fools like Schefter who are damaging the brand of the NFL?

In today's world whether in real life, politics, or sports, you get to just make shit up and keep saying it until a certain percentage of people will start to believe it, especially if it confirms their bias or wishes. I think Orwell wrote a book about that once.
Because in the end, these conspiracy theories aren't tarnishing the brand at all. Viewership is at an all-time high.
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Because in the end, these conspiracy theories aren't tarnishing the brand at all. Viewership is at an all-time high.
Controversy sells.

80% of the boycotters will still watch.
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Controversy sells.

80% of the boycotters will still watch.
99% of the boycotters will watch.

The people screaming “boycott” are the people who are perpetually online. You think when Super Bowl Sunday rolls around and the top 30 trends on Twitter are about the Super Bowl that these social media addicts will be able to resist turning on the game?

Get real. They’re all going to watch.
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99% of the boycotters will watch.

The people screaming “boycott” are the people who are perpetually online. You think when Super Bowl Sunday rolls around and the top 30 trends on Twitter are about the Super Bowl that these social media addicts will be able to resist turning on the game?

Get real. They’re all going to watch.
It's going to break viewership records.
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Can you guys please answer something for me? I'm trying to understand how the conspiracy could work, and who would organize it.

Troy Vincent, former CB (including Bills and Eagles), is EVP of Football Operations responsible for: developing the game, ensuring consistency in the rules and officiating, and strengthening the NFL brand. He reports to Commissioner Goodell, who is accountable to the Executive Committee of league owners.

We know that behind any good conspiracy is the motive of money, which means TV ratings and merchandise sales in this case. The primary theory seems to center on Taylor Swift being uniquely good for bringing in new fans and especially for TV ratings, doesn't it? I can't think of any other reasonable angle.

So the either the other owners would have to agree to have Goodell and Vincent pressure refs, which is ludicrous, or those two and their reports would have to conspire independently of the owners, presumably because their compensation is tied to revenue, and the refs would have to get a cut. They would risk losing their positions when inevitably the plot is uncovered because it involves so many players.

Am I doing this right? I just wish one of these idiot reporters would ask someone like Adam Schefter, ok, just tell me exactly how you think this is being done and by whom? Also, I don't understand why the owners and Goodell don't step in and deny access to these fools like Schefter who are damaging the brand of the NFL?

In today's world whether in real life, politics, or sports, you get to just make shit up and keep saying it until a certain percentage of people will start to believe it, especially if it confirms their bias or wishes. I think Orwell wrote a book about that once.
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Can you guys please answer something for me? I'm trying to understand how the conspiracy could work, and who would organize it.

Troy Vincent, former CB (including Bills and Eagles), is EVP of Football Operations responsible for: developing the game, ensuring consistency in the rules and officiating, and strengthening the NFL brand. He reports to Commissioner Goodell, who is accountable to the Executive Committee of league owners.

We know that behind any good conspiracy is the motive of money, which means TV ratings and merchandise sales in this case. The primary theory seems to center on Taylor Swift being uniquely good for bringing in new fans and especially for TV ratings, doesn't it? I can't think of any other reasonable angle.

So the either the other owners would have to agree to have Goodell and Vincent pressure refs, which is ludicrous, or those two and their reports would have to conspire independently of the owners, presumably because their compensation is tied to revenue, and the refs would have to get a cut. They would risk losing their positions when inevitably the plot is uncovered because it involves so many players.

Am I doing this right? I just wish one of these idiot reporters would ask someone like Adam Schefter, ok, just tell me exactly how you think this is being done and by whom? Also, I don't understand why the owners and Goodell don't step in and deny access to these fools like Schefter who are damaging the brand of the NFL?

In today's world whether in real life, politics, or sports, you get to just make shit up and keep saying it until a certain percentage of people will start to believe it, especially if it confirms their bias or wishes. I think Orwell wrote a book about that once.
I think if Goodell et. al. would respond to this it's like giving a fire air. It will just flame up and feed itself.

Some things are too stupid to justify a response.
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I think if Goodell et. al. would respond to this it's like giving a fire air. It will just flame up and feed itself.

Some things are too stupid to justify a response.
Exactly. It's so dumb, it's best to just ignore it.
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I think if Goodell et. al. would respond to this it's like giving a fire air. It will just flame up and feed itself.

Some things are too stupid to justify a response.
Yeah I thought about that. I just want to see irresponsible clowns like Schefter suffer consequences from a league that is effectively paying their salaries. I lost total respect for that guy. That statement he made is as bad as the worst of any politician. No intent, no agenda, not suggesting anything, just putting "facts" out there.
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Can you guys please answer something for me? I'm trying to understand how the conspiracy could work, and who would organize it.

Troy Vincent, former CB (including Bills and Eagles), is EVP of Football Operations responsible for: developing the game, ensuring consistency in the rules and officiating, and strengthening the NFL brand. He reports to Commissioner Goodell, who is accountable to the Executive Committee of league owners.

We know that behind any good conspiracy is the motive of money, which means TV ratings and merchandise sales in this case. The primary theory seems to center on Taylor Swift being uniquely good for bringing in new fans and especially for TV ratings, doesn't it? I can't think of any other reasonable angle.

So the either the other owners would have to agree to have Goodell and Vincent pressure refs, which is ludicrous, or those two and their reports would have to conspire independently of the owners, presumably because their compensation is tied to revenue, and the refs would have to get a cut. They would risk losing their positions when inevitably the plot is uncovered because it involves so many players.

Am I doing this right? I just wish one of these idiot reporters would ask someone like Adam Schefter, ok, just tell me exactly how you think this is being done and by whom? Also, I don't understand why the owners and Goodell don't step in and deny access to these fools like Schefter who are damaging the brand of the NFL?

In today's world whether in real life, politics, or sports, you get to just make shit up and keep saying it until a certain percentage of people will start to believe it, especially if it confirms their bias or wishes. I think Orwell wrote a book about that once.
Think it would be impossible to fix. Not sure how you keep all of the officials in on it and silent at the same time.

The bigger problem is that a lot do not agree with the calls on the field in the last 2 weeks. Most of the disputed calls were reviewed. The head office could have over turned any one of them. Both personal foul calls they clearly hit Patrick's head. The league indicated it was called correctly. The catch, there is no video of the ball moving, the 4th down there is no evidence as to where the ball was....

Now that being said, the old NBA was notorious for sending refs videos on what to watch for and those could lead to refs calling certain players and effect the outcome. (ie Bulls up 3-0, and we want the otherside to avoid a sweep) the video is of Jordan hooking on his spin move, the video is of Rodman being in the paint for 5 seconds...)

I do think the NFL has done this to Taylor and his false start. If he comes close it is a auto penalty. Other tackles seem to get away with it 1-2 times a game.

I think on the McCafee show they did ask Schefter that and he said he is not a conspiracy theroist he just report facts. Seemed to indicate he does not believe the games are rigged just reporting the sentiment of others.

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If you know that you need to beat the refs, then why are you still losing? You know the Chiefs will only clear 30 very few times, you only scored 27 against the Ravens AT HOME so you knew you had to bring a better game against the Chiefs at their home, against their fans, against the refs, so why didn't you? You weren't good enough to hit 30, if you aren't scoring 30 like you did in our first meeting IN BUFFALO then why did you think you could come in and score under 30 in Arrowhead and win? Plan better ****ers and enjoy Cancun. AND we spotted you two possessions, once for the fumble and once after halftime when we did nothing with the ball.
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Think it would be impossible to fix. Not sure how you keep all of the officials in on it and silent at the same time.

The bigger problem is that a lot do not agree with the calls on the field in the last 2 weeks. Most of the disputed calls were reviewed. The head office could have over turned any one of them. Both personal foul calls they clearly hit Patrick's head. The league indicated it was called correctly. The catch, there is no video of the ball moving, the 4th down there is no evidence as to where the ball was....

Now that being said, the old NBA was notorious for sending refs videos on what to watch for and those could lead to refs calling certain players and effect the outcome. (ie Bulls up 3-0, and we want the otherside to avoid a sweep) the video is of Jordan hooking on his spin move, the video is of Rodman being in the paint for 5 seconds...)

I do think the NFL has done this to Taylor and his false start. If he comes close it is a auto penalty. Other takles seem to get away with it 1-2 times a game.

I think on the McCafee show they did ask Schefter that and he said he is not a conspiracy theroist he just report facts. Seemed to indicate he does not believe the games are rigged just reporting the sentiment of others.
That's the problem. The sentiment of others is just that - sentiment. It's not "fact".

Plus Schefter is doing damage control.

"For all those complaining that Patrick Mahomes gets too many calls, relief soon could be on the way."

He has a ****ing agenda and he knows it.
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That's the problem. The sentiment of others is just that - sentiment. It's not "fact".

Plus Schefter is doing damage control.

"For all those complaining that Patrick Mahomes gets too many calls, relief soon could be on the way."

He has a ****ing agenda and he knows it.
Do not disagree, he did leave out that the league had already said they were correct calls. Which he knew when he reported it.
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