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Old 02-10-2025, 12:02 PM   #1
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Media hate against us is concerning. Houston and Bills coaching and players called out the NFL like they were making us win and then just like that we get our asses kicked and are on the wrong end of damn near every call.

You could feel it was over from the start.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:37 AM   #2
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Have to wonder if the Nagy influence has hurt the rhythm. We just have so rarely found it on offense without running the ball a lot or a 2 minute drive.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:37 AM   #3
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Huge concern, offense looked like ass all year except maybe Pittsburgh game. Kelce is a shadow of his former self and I really am starting to believe he was the TRUE KEY to our monstrous offensive years a few years ago. Pat is great but he needs his Kelce/Gronkowski type player to be truly effective and unlock all of his abilities. Also the LT situation has turned into an absolute haunting nightmare now.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:38 AM   #4
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It’s quite simple.

Every team we play in the SB had a ridiculously stacked D Line.

Our 3 SB victories our offense hung in long enough for the pass rush to get tired late.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:39 AM   #5
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Yeah I think it was more about being flat out outmatched.

The defense played their damn hearts out. And they played well.

The offense came out swinging. You can see it in their body language that they looked like they didn’t have an answer. You rarely see mahomes look stone faced. I just don’t know what you can do when your offense is brutally bad at protecting a simple 4 man rush
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:45 AM   #6
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Yeah I think it was more about being flat out outmatched.

The defense played their damn hearts out. And they played well.

The offense came out swinging. You can see it in their body language that they looked like they didn’t have an answer. You rarely see mahomes look stone faced. I just don’t know what you can do when your offense is brutally bad at protecting a simple 4 man rush
They weren’t Georgia vs TCU outmatched… but they looked that way.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:45 AM   #7
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They played a deep zone with only 4 pass rushers and we never ran the ball.

That is 100% on Andy. Dumb as could be.

7 total runs ENTIRE GAME + 4 by Pat running for his life.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:47 AM   #8
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I just don’t know what we could have done tactically.

We couldn’t run the ball. The eagles could run their base defense and snuff it out. Running the ball opens up nothing.

Eagles didn’t even blitz and generated immediate pressure and sealed off Mahomes’ running lanes. They had more guys in coverage because nobody was scared of the run and they didn’t need to blitz. And we had less guys because we were chipping. It’s like trying to hype your guys up when your tallest guy is spud Webb guarding Shaq in the post.
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Old 02-10-2025, 11:07 AM   #9
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I just don’t know what we could have done tactically.

We couldn’t run the ball. The eagles could run their base defense and snuff it out. Running the ball opens up nothing.

Eagles didn’t even blitz and generated immediate pressure and sealed off Mahomes’ running lanes. They had more guys in coverage because nobody was scared of the run and they didn’t need to blitz. And we had less guys because we were chipping. It’s like trying to hype your guys up when your tallest guy is spud Webb guarding Shaq in the post.
Run more RPO and WR screens. Maybe even a few designed QB runs.

Not saying it would have won the game but it would at least keep the defense guessing. Dropping back on each play wasn't working.
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Run more RPO and WR screens. Maybe even a few designed QB runs.

Not saying it would have won the game but it would at least keep the defense guessing. Dropping back on each play wasn't working.
This is the answer right here. We were facing a young D that was playing fairly generic looks and we never made them think. We should have run alot of what we ran against the Bills to make them think a bit and perhaps integrate the run game into our approach.
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I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:59 AM   #12
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I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right.
Yeah what probably saved our season last year was kelce going into God mode during the playoffs last year. What was missing last year was legit vertical threats. And now we have it and we’ve been unable to get Mahomes over those yips. I still think Hollywood’s injury hurt us more than we realize. The early season was our best shot to get Mahomes over those yips but instead his primary speed target was a guy still figuring shit out. Kind of like LT it felt like we were holding our intermediate/deep passing game together with masking tape.

Because with a healthy rashee we still really struggled to pass the ball without tunnel visioning onto him.
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I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right.
Kelce's drop on the first drive set the tone for the game. Couple that with poor field position, horrendous game plan and crap OL play and it was a recipe for disaster by Mahomes. He was pressing and dug the hole deeper and deeper with his two INTs
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The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:53 AM   #15
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The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.
Well said, when you take away Pat's ability to run free out of the pocket he starts to look sub par, he needs to learn to dominate a game from the pocket, I think he can change this. The League has a very effective game plan against him now the way he currently plays.
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