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Old 02-17-2025, 10:32 AM   #1
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3 SB wins in 6 years, 2 SB losses, 1 AFC champ game loss.

"Failures".

Interesting dynamic.
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Old 02-17-2025, 10:34 AM   #2
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3 SB wins in 6 years, 2 SB losses, 1 AFC champ game loss.

"Failures".

Interesting dynamic.
Every loss is a failure, for any team.
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Old 02-17-2025, 10:35 AM   #3
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The board was pretty high on Mike Kafka when he was QB coach before taking the OC gig with the Giants. I have to assume he'll be on the open market in a year. Has his time with the Giants completely tarnished his image or would people want him back in the organization as OC if available?
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Old 02-17-2025, 10:42 AM   #4
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The board was pretty high on Mike Kafka when he was QB coach before taking the OC gig with the Giants. I have to assume he'll be on the open market in a year. Has his time with the Giants completely tarnished his image or would people want him back in the organization as OC if available?
At this point, no.

New blood needed.
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Old 02-17-2025, 10:43 AM   #5
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IMO, Connor Embree as the WR coach is a disaster... fire this guy.
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Old 02-17-2025, 11:05 AM   #6
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IMO, Connor Embree as the WR coach is a disaster... fire this guy.
Why? We’ve had back to back rookies grow exponentially as the season went on to become studs. The guys he couldn’t fix last year, many of them couldn’t even make a team or went to a team who also couldn’t fix them.
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Old 02-17-2025, 11:48 AM   #7
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Nah. Rice and Worthy developing in back to back seasons says otherwise.
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Old 02-17-2025, 11:07 AM   #8
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It's almost like it's actual talent needed to be developed.

It was the same with Andy Heck, then they brought in the interior OL, and next thing you konw we have Andrew Wiley getting a contract elsewhere.
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:40 PM   #9
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If and when we make another Super Bowl, if you don't spend the entire 2 weeks leading up to it petrified that Andy shits his pants again then you have a lot more faith than me. 6 Super Bowls in his career, trailed by double digits in all of them. Two blowouts because he had no idea what to do when the OL couldn't protect.

Had the chance to be the coach who 3peated. Biggest game of his life. Went in with a shit gameplan and stood there catching flies in his mouth when it didn't work. He needs at least 2 dominant Super Bowl wins before I ever feel comfortable again.
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:41 PM   #10
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If and when we make another Super Bowl, if you don't spend the entire 2 weeks leading up to it petrified that Andy shits his pants again then you have a lot more faith than me. 6 Super Bowls in his career, trailed by double digits in all of them. Two blowouts because he had no idea what to do when the OL couldn't protect.

Had the chance to be the coach who 3peated. Biggest game of his life. Went in with a shit gameplan and stood there catching flies in his mouth when it didn't work. He needs at least 2 dominant Super Bowl wins before I ever feel comfortable again.
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:47 PM   #11
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Sorry I don't like seeing the team get humiliated on the biggest stage twice in four years because the same coach made the same mistakes.
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Sorry I don't like seeing the team get humiliated on the biggest stage twice in four years because the same coach made the same mistakes.
We could always go back to no playoff wins in 30 years.
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Old 02-17-2025, 02:52 PM   #13
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We could always go back to no playoff wins in 30 years.
This season ultimately ended the same way all those did: no ring.

We have one of the absolute best QBs in the history of the sport. He's not going to play forever. We could be back in the era of no playoff wins before we know it. So when you get to the position where you have a shot at the only 3peat ever and a shot at only being two Lombardis shy of becoming the most decorated team in NFL history, all the "I'm just happy to be here. I just hope they had fun. Good try, Andy!" stuff is over.

I didn't say Andy should be fired. But he shit on the carpet again and he should have his face rubbed into the mess until he learns to stop.
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Old 02-17-2025, 12:46 PM   #14
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Old 02-17-2025, 03:31 PM   #15
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Bringing in a guy like Jon Gruden as an “offensive analyst/consultant” might be the best compromise if Andy is not going to shake up his offensive coaching staff.

Similar to Chris Ault and Brad Childress earlier during Andy’s tenure in KC.
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