QBOTF question from Iowanian(s) - Page 2

vailpass · 10-22-2004, 01:06 PM

Tate looked good at the Spring game but has a lot of development to go. Biggest knock: he is too damn short for the NFL. It's good to see the Hawks with a starting QB who will be around for a couple of years instead of the merry-go-round of seniors we have had (not that it hasn't been succesful).

jspchief · 10-22-2004, 01:06 PM

Drew Tate has looked decent, and seems to show progress in each successive game, but he's a long way from the NFL. For one thing, he's only a sophmore. Any talent he has shown would only grow with more college experience.

I wasn't in here when Banks played, but I can't imagine anyone pimping him as a pro. He was the perfect example of a good college QB that had no shot in the pros. Seneca Wallace from ISU is the only short guy I can think of...Like Saul said, he's in Seattle and has looked good when he's been on the field. Given the chance I think he could be solid. Pretty much a black Doug Flutie.

chief52 · 10-22-2004, 01:10 PM

Aaron Rodger, JR. from California looks like he has all the tools to make it in the NFL. I think he would make a great QB of the future for the Chiefs.

10-22-2004, 01:11 PM

I'm a Hawkeye fan and I don't remember pimping him for the NFL. I remember pimping him for Heisman because he had a monster Sr. year.

I haven't seen enough of Tate - there's plenty of time.

jspchief · 10-22-2004, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

I'm a Hawkeye fan and I don't remember pimping him for the NFL. I remember pimping him for Heisman because he had a monster Sr. year.

I haven't seen enough of Tate - there's plenty of time.

A lot of people were pimping Banks for the Heisman, and justifiably so. He had an amazing senior year, with a ridiculous TD to INT ratio. Unfortunately, the bowl game showed that the right guy probably won it.

ROYC75 · 10-22-2004, 01:16 PM

Put me on the David Green bandwagon. Solid arm, good presence in the pocket, etc. With the right QB coach, he could do very well !

Frankie · 10-22-2004, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Put me on the David Green bandwagon. Solid arm, good presence in the pocket, etc. With the right QB coach, he could do very well !

That would make for a much smoother transition for the QB position. Both have the same last name.

Brianfo · 10-22-2004, 03:35 PM

Put down the crack pipe about Drew Tate playing in the NFL. Get real. Seneca Wallace and Sage Rosenfels are both better NFL propects than anyone to ever come out of Iowa. Iowa fans always have blinders on. Never give any credit to anything but the Squawkeyes!!!!!!!!!

htismaqe · 10-22-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Put down the crack pipe about Drew Tate playing in the NFL. Get real. Seneca Wallace and Sage Rosenfels are both better NFL propects than anyone to ever come out of Iowa. Iowa fans always have blinders on. Never give any credit to anything but the Squawkeyes!!!!!!!!!

Hmm...

That sounds like the bitter fan of a team that hasn't won a conference game in almost 2 full years...

ChiefsCountry · 10-22-2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Put me on the David Green bandwagon. Solid arm, good presence in the pocket, etc. With the right QB coach, he could do very well !

Its David Greene. Forgot the e.

**Iowanian** · 10-22-2004, 01:43 PM

Who was the highly touted QB recruit with the big name?

Politics.

I don't know.........I'm only going by this guy's opinion on that. Tate has looked better each week.......but in fairness.......he is using his #5 RB and the Line was battered early, and has lost like 8 players to the NFL in the past 2 seasons.

htismaqe · 10-22-2004, 01:59 PM

I have to weigh in on several things here:

1) Manson is not a better QB than Tate. Roy, your friend is watching them in practice and judging them on physical ability. It's no doubt Manson is much closer to Brad Banks than Tate. But Tate has a mentality and the intangibles that Manson will never have. He re-wrote the record books in high school -- he's the most prolific passer in Texas 5A history. That's Texas. That's 5A. His dad is a coach -- he grew up learning football. How many sophomore QB's have 4 straight games where they hit AT LEAST EIGHT different receivers?

2) Everything he's done so far has really been with a makeshift offensive line and no running game.

2) Drew Tate is not too short to play in the NFL. He's 6'0". He's the same size as Drew Brees.

3) Seneca Wallace is the midget. He was also a Suck-lone, not a Hawk. Brad Banks was the Heisman runner-up, but I don't think any of us Hawk fans were pimping him for the NFL -- most of us, I believe, said he wasn't suited for the NFL, and we were right.

**Iowanian** · 10-22-2004, 02:04 PM

JSP....

I'm not there, I don't know. He's not a coach, but not a jock washer either.

I'll say that he also talked about what other players were saying, and it had alot to do with work ethic, attitude and respect of the other players......He said that Tate is a spoiled Prima Donna.........but funny enough.......Schlicker was worse.

i don't know...I'm not at practice........I'm sure the coaches do what they think is best. I like Ferentz and think he's a good coach, and knows alot about player potential, particularly Oline.

I mean.....we all know that NFL coaches like Vermeil never make personell decisions that the fans and other players might not agree with.

I'm in the Tate= Drew Brees crowd. I'm not biatching. I just wish a RB could last more than 2 quarters without going down.

The guy has been reliable before with insider stuff.............He knew Sapp was gone from IA before the news did.........and why.

Hoover · 10-22-2004, 02:10 PM

He looks like Jeff Garcia when playing to me.

**Iowanian** · 10-22-2004, 02:12 PM

I hadn't notice him walking bow legged with wrists limped down on the way to the line?

I keeeed I keeeeed.

10-22-2004, 01:06 PM	#1
vailpass Psycho Bag Of Squanch Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9594244	Tate looked good at the Spring game but has a lot of development to go. Biggest knock: he is too damn short for the NFL. It's good to see the Hawks with a starting QB who will be around for a couple of years instead of the merry-go-round of seniors we have had (not that it hasn't been succesful).
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10-22-2004, 01:06 PM	#2
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Drew Tate has looked decent, and seems to show progress in each successive game, but he's a long way from the NFL. For one thing, he's only a sophmore. Any talent he has shown would only grow with more college experience. I wasn't in here when Banks played, but I can't imagine anyone pimping him as a pro. He was the perfect example of a good college QB that had no shot in the pros. Seneca Wallace from ISU is the only short guy I can think of...Like Saul said, he's in Seattle and has looked good when he's been on the field. Given the chance I think he could be solid. Pretty much a black Doug Flutie. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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10-22-2004, 01:10 PM	#3
chief52 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NoCal Casino cash: $9805260	Aaron Rodger, JR. from California looks like he has all the tools to make it in the NFL. I think he would make a great QB of the future for the Chiefs.
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10-22-2004, 01:11 PM	#4
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	I'm a Hawkeye fan and I don't remember pimping him for the NFL. I remember pimping him for Heisman because he had a monster Sr. year. I haven't seen enough of Tate - there's plenty of time.
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10-22-2004, 01:16 PM	#6
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2080400	Put me on the David Green bandwagon. Solid arm, good presence in the pocket, etc. With the right QB coach, he could do very well ! __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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10-22-2004, 03:35 PM	#8
Brianfo Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Casino cash: $10004900	Drew Tate sucks Put down the crack pipe about Drew Tate playing in the NFL. Get real. Seneca Wallace and Sage Rosenfels are both better NFL propects than anyone to ever come out of Iowa. Iowa fans always have blinders on. Never give any credit to anything but the Squawkeyes!!!!!!!!!
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10-22-2004, 01:43 PM	#11
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1638454	Who was the highly touted QB recruit with the big name? Politics. I don't know.........I'm only going by this guy's opinion on that. Tate has looked better each week.......but in fairness.......he is using his #5 RB and the Line was battered early, and has lost like 8 players to the NFL in the past 2 seasons.
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10-22-2004, 01:59 PM	#12
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8069900	I have to weigh in on several things here: 1) Manson is not a better QB than Tate. Roy, your friend is watching them in practice and judging them on physical ability. It's no doubt Manson is much closer to Brad Banks than Tate. But Tate has a mentality and the intangibles that Manson will never have. He re-wrote the record books in high school -- he's the most prolific passer in Texas 5A history. That's Texas. That's 5A. His dad is a coach -- he grew up learning football. How many sophomore QB's have 4 straight games where they hit AT LEAST EIGHT different receivers? 2) Everything he's done so far has really been with a makeshift offensive line and no running game. 2) Drew Tate is not too short to play in the NFL. He's 6'0". He's the same size as Drew Brees. 3) Seneca Wallace is the midget. He was also a Suck-lone, not a Hawk. Brad Banks was the Heisman runner-up, but I don't think any of us Hawk fans were pimping him for the NFL -- most of us, I believe, said he wasn't suited for the NFL, and we were right.
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10-22-2004, 02:04 PM	#13
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1638454	JSP.... I'm not there, I don't know. He's not a coach, but not a jock washer either. I'll say that he also talked about what other players were saying, and it had alot to do with work ethic, attitude and respect of the other players......He said that Tate is a spoiled Prima Donna.........but funny enough.......Schlicker was worse. i don't know...I'm not at practice........I'm sure the coaches do what they think is best. I like Ferentz and think he's a good coach, and knows alot about player potential, particularly Oline. I mean.....we all know that NFL coaches like Vermeil never make personell decisions that the fans and other players might not agree with. I'm in the Tate= Drew Brees crowd. I'm not biatching. I just wish a RB could last more than 2 quarters without going down. The guy has been reliable before with insider stuff.............He knew Sapp was gone from IA before the news did.........and why.
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10-22-2004, 02:10 PM	#14
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2231821	He looks like Jeff Garcia when playing to me.
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10-22-2004, 02:12 PM	#15
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1638454	I hadn't notice him walking bow legged with wrists limped down on the way to the line? I keeeed I keeeeed.
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