Keitzman is hammering CP on 810

[TRR]

[QUOTE=Chief Henry]

Originally Posted by TRR

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

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This SUCKS, now we are being compared to the
Arizona Cardinals. Look how fricken low this franchise has become...

Never compared KC with the Cardinals.

Originally Posted by TRR

Never compared KC with the Cardinals.

I have. The Cardinals won a playoff game 5 years ago. Where does that leave the Chiefs?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by TRR

Until Keitzman produces stats of what other NFL teams have done (offensively and defensively) in the same time span, then I really could care less.

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

And when did the "Pro Bowl" become the definition of a quality football player?

Pro Bowl is certainly the bench mark they use when defining a player.

Cardinals have drafted Simeon Rice, Aeneas Williams, Jamir Miller, Eric Swann are just ones I can think of off the top of my head on defense.

But regardless, so the Cardinals have sucked at drafting that gives Carl a pass?

That's like a kid bringing home his report card and his parents asked him why he failed and then he says, "Well my best friend failed too."

[TRR]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

But regardless, so the Cardinals have sucked at drafting that gives Carl a pass?

I never said that. And for the record, I do think Peterson struggles when it comes to drafting, however, I think every team has it's problems when it comes to the draft. Peterson will never get a free pass, I just think that Peterson does a little better job than some give him credit for.

Either way, Peterson is KC's GM. There isn't a whole lot we can do about it.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Cardinals have drafted Simeon Rice, Aeneas Williams, Jamir Miller, Eric Swann are just ones I can think of off the top of my head on defense.

Pat Tillman (7th rnd), Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Leonard Davis, David Boston, LJ Shelton, Cory Chavous, Michael Pittman, Frank Sanders, Garrison Hearst, Jeff Christy, Ricky Proehl, Larry Centers, Tom Tupa...


Oh, and Jake Plummer.

[C-Mac]

Originally Posted by TRR

Until Keitzman produces stats of what other NFL teams have done (offensively and defensively) in the same time span, then I really could care less.

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

And when did the "Pro Bowl" become the definition of a quality football player?

One must also consider that the Chiefs thru out the 90's, didnt have a the luxury to draft high up on the board and didnt have a first round pick a couple of times. But regardless, Peterson has still for the most part, always tried to put a competitive team on the field each year.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by TRR

Until Keitzman produces stats of what other NFL teams have done (offensively and defensively) in the same time span, then I really could care less.

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

And when did the "Pro Bowl" become the definition of a quality football player?

That's a new one... A dog who wants to have his nose rubbed into it... Nay. Demands.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by Taco John

That's a new one... A dog who wants to have his nose rubbed into it... Nay. Demands.

ZZZ ....Your still here.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by TRR

Until Keitzman produces stats of what other NFL teams have done (offensively and defensively) in the same time span, then I really could care less.

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

And when did the "Pro Bowl" become the definition of a quality football player?

You want to compare us to one of the worst franchises in the league? In order for us to win the SB, we need to compare favorably to the best teams in the league. I did a post awhile back comparing us to the Steelers. They kicked our asses, not even close. No search function or I'd find it for you.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by whoman69

You want to compare us to one of the worst franchises in the league? In order for us to win the SB, we need to compare favorably to the best teams in the league. I did a post awhile back comparing us to the Steelers. They kicked our asses, not even close. No search function or I'd find it for you.

Talk about not getting the gist of a post...

I never compared KC to Arizona. I just used Arizona as an example, just as the other poster did with Denver. No comparison, just an example as to how (offensively and defensively) things even out.

[alanm]

Originally Posted by TRR

Until Keitzman produces stats of what other NFL teams have done (offensively and defensively) in the same time span, then I really could care less.

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

And when did the "Pro Bowl" become the definition of a quality football player?

I put more stock in guys making the All Pro Team. Not everybody who goes to the Pro Bowl makes the All Pro Team.

[Hercules Rockefell]

Originally Posted by alanm

I put more stock in guys making the All Pro Team. Not everybody who goes to the Pro Bowl makes the All Pro Team.

and every few years you get an All-Pro who was a Pro Bowl snub

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by TRR

Until Keitzman produces stats of what other NFL teams have done (offensively and defensively) in the same time span, then I really could care less.

How many Pro Bowl D players have the Cardinals drafted, etc....

And when did the "Pro Bowl" become the definition of a quality football player?

So true. Trent Green should have been in the pro-bowl last year and wasn't...basically because of the crappy defense. I figure there are a lot of teams with a lot of talent that goes unrecognized in the pro-bowl because of a similar problem.

But Carl does suck in the draft.

[KCTitus]

Well, the Chiefs didnt 'draft' Green, so I dont think it counts for this exercise.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Well, the Chiefs didnt 'draft' Green, so I dont think it counts for this exercise.

Should it count for San Diego?