Keitzman is hammering CP on 810 - Page 4

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-20-2005, 05:03 PM

If Carl has any balls he'll pull the trigger on a DJ trade up trade down their 2nd round pick pick up a 2nd and 3rd use the 3rd for Surtain and the 2nd for DJ plus a 5th for the #9-#11 spot

**The Bad Guy** · 04-20-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

If Carl has any balls he'll pull the trigger on a DJ trade up trade down their 2nd round pick pick up a 2nd and 3rd use the 3rd for Surtain and the 2nd for DJ plus a 5th for the #9-#11 spot

Yeah, like that would ever happen.

How in the hell would he trade up to get DJ, and then keep a 2nd rounder to trade down with in the first place?

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

If Carl has any balls...

You've been here long enough to make over 2000 posts (under this screename, anyway) and you still think it's possible Carl has any balls?

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-20-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

You've been here long enough to make over 2000 posts (under this screename, anyway) and you still think it's possible Carl has any balls?

It's was a rhetorical remark

jcroft · 04-20-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

It's was a rhetorical remark

You've been here long enough to make over 2000 posts (on this screenname, anyway), and you still think there's such a thing as "rhetorical" at ChiefsPlanet?

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-20-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jcroft

You've been here long enough to make over 2000 posts (on this screenname, anyway), and you still think there's such a thing as "rhetorical" at ChiefsPlanet?

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Hoover · 04-20-2005, 05:23 PM

Its not about Pro Bowls, its about defensive rankings. And the Chiefs have sucked on that side of the ball since 2000.

htismaqe · 04-20-2005, 06:52 PM

Kevin Keitzman is indicative of PRECISELY why Carl Peterson is still here.

If KC had anything resembling REAL MEDIA instead of these morons, maybe they could have affected some real change.

Logical · 04-20-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

Kevin Keitzman is indicative of PRECISELY why Carl Peterson is still here.

If KC had anything resembling REAL MEDIA instead of these morons, maybe they could have affected some real change.

So why is it acceptable to bash on the KC media, but not Rufus Dawes? Seems like you are being inconsistent. Not that your point is not correct.

htismaqe · 04-20-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

So why is it acceptable to bash on the KC media, but not Rufus Dawes? Seems like you are being inconsistent. Not that your point is not correct.

Where did I EVER say it's not acceptable to bash on Dawes?

I merely pointed out the irony (and HYPOCRISY) of posting Dawes' articles here for "entertainment" purposes.

htismaqe · 04-20-2005, 07:23 PM

My point is this:

Carl Peterson is a joke. Rufus Dawes is quite possibly the lowest-class Bush League insult to fans in all of professional sports, let alone the NFL.

But everytime a guy like KK or Whitlock levels a VALID criticism against him, all he has to do is say "Yeah, look who that came from. Mr. Pants around his ankles, or Mr. Walked out of his radio show while on the air."

Logical · 04-20-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

My point is this:

Carl Peterson is a joke. Rufus Dawes is quite possibly the lowest-class Bush League insult to fans in all of professional sports, let alone the NFL.

But everytime a guy like KK or Whitlock levels a VALID criticism against him, all he has to do is say "Yeah, look who that came from. Mr. Pants around his ankles, or Mr. Walked out of his radio show while on the air."

Now, now, Rufus will have a hard time beating out Al D_avis

KChiefs1 · 04-20-2005, 08:12 PM

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I think your core players have to come through FA. NFL vets are proven, and can get the job done. The draft is too much of a crap shoot to expect draftees to become your core players.

I think you'll find "most" great teams were built through the draft(Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys) but in today's era you need to have a good combination of great drafts & making correct decision in the FA market. Obviously if Carl had drafted the correct players over the last few years to go along with the Priest Holmes & Willie Roaf's the Chiefs would be up in the Patriots echelon. You have to have a few years of great drafts to go along with the correct signings of FA's.

DAMMIT CARL!!!!!!!!

KevB · 04-20-2005, 08:25 PM

The reason you build through the draft is that it's cheaper. You get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th round pick signed to a three or four year deal at a reasonable price. If you go sign a vet, they get paid more...plain and simple. The Eagles have guys like Sheppard, Brown, M. Lewis, etc. who aren't getting paid as much as guys like Woods, Wesley and Warfield despite the painful disparity in level of play. Why? The Chiefs have years in the league which means money.

I really can't believe anyone believes that FA/trade is even remotely as important as building through the draft. Hell, not many teams have done better through FA/trade than the Chiefs, and look at our lack of success on the field. We're the perfect counterpoint.

**wazu** · 04-20-2005, 09:35 PM

Kietzman was on fire today! I usually can't stand the guy, but apparently bashing Carl is his strong suit.

Unbelievably good radio!

04-20-2005, 05:03 PM	#1
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-3087187	If Carl has any balls he'll pull the trigger on a DJ trade up trade down their 2nd round pick pick up a 2nd and 3rd use the 3rd for Surtain and the 2nd for DJ plus a 5th for the #9-#11 spot __________________
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2241821	Its not about Pro Bowls, its about defensive rankings. And the Chiefs have sucked on that side of the ball since 2000.
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04-20-2005, 06:52 PM	#8
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8069900	Kevin Keitzman is indicative of PRECISELY why Carl Peterson is still here. If KC had anything resembling REAL MEDIA instead of these morons, maybe they could have affected some real change.
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04-20-2005, 08:25 PM	#14
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	The reason you build through the draft is that it's cheaper. You get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th round pick signed to a three or four year deal at a reasonable price. If you go sign a vet, they get paid more...plain and simple. The Eagles have guys like Sheppard, Brown, M. Lewis, etc. who aren't getting paid as much as guys like Woods, Wesley and Warfield despite the painful disparity in level of play. Why? The Chiefs have years in the league which means money. I really can't believe anyone believes that FA/trade is even remotely as important as building through the draft. Hell, not many teams have done better through FA/trade than the Chiefs, and look at our lack of success on the field. We're the perfect counterpoint.
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04-20-2005, 09:35 PM	#15
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1787705 VARSITY	Kietzman was on fire today! I usually can't stand the guy, but apparently bashing Carl is his strong suit. Unbelievably good radio!
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04-20-2005, 07:23 PM	#11
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8069900	My point is this: Carl Peterson is a joke. Rufus Dawes is quite possibly the lowest-class Bush League insult to fans in all of professional sports, let alone the NFL. But everytime a guy like KK or Whitlock levels a VALID criticism against him, all he has to do is say "Yeah, look who that came from. Mr. Pants around his ankles, or Mr. Walked out of his radio show while on the air."
Posts: 104,482