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Old 05-04-2006, 03:11 PM   #1
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So it WAS McCleon's fault!! I knew it!
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:33 PM   #2
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So it WAS McCleon's fault!! I knew it!
Actually, Dexter was a 2nd-rounder.

He was talking about Hicks and those guys.

In fact, he said San Diego has TEN starters on defense that were drafted 1st-day. The only starter they had last year that wasn't was Donnie Edwards...
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:31 PM   #3
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Any info about plans at DT? Who starts next to Sims? Who plays CB if we don't get Law?
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:43 PM   #4
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I say, let Gun do his freakin job. It seems like DV would never listen to him. We deffinately seem to have more of an attitude on Defense. I think Gun is tired of being laughed at.
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:25 PM   #5
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I'm excited about Pollard, too. He is what our defense has been sorely lacking-a player who loves to hit. He also will send a message to those who want to catch the ball by knocking them on their asses. Just like Tom Jackson kept repeating when some questioned the Bernie Pollard pick..."yea but he can hit, he can hit."
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:25 PM   #6
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Gun ... said that in the NFC there were only 4 starting CB's who were not 1st-day draft picks.
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Battle was a first day pick. Which other CBs do we have who were first day picks? Or does this mean we are getting Law?
Um, try reading that again. In the NFC there were only 4....

Not in the NFL. Thus having nothing to do with our roster this year or last.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:10 PM   #7
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Um, try reading that again. In the NFC there were only 4....

Not in the NFL. Thus having nothing to do with our roster this year or last.
Hmm, I believe I read it correctly.

It seems Gunther would like to have more first day picks as his starters, no? If Gun follows his own advice he would select a first day pick as the CB opposite surtain. Of the CBs currently on the roster I believe only Battle is a first day pick. This also follows last year's preseason when Gun challenged Battle to "take his (Warfield's) job". Of course this is pure speculation but, ¿what else is there to do in the offseason?

It gets really interesting because there are four CBs (Battle, Hodge, Sapp, Maxey) who might start or might not even be on the roster. Anyway, of the corners we currently have on the roster who do you think will start?
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Old 05-04-2006, 07:54 PM   #8
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Hmm, I believe I read it correctly.

It seems Gunther would like to have more first day picks as his starters, no? If Gun follows his own advice he would select a first day pick as the CB opposite surtain. Of the CBs currently on the roster I believe only Battle is a first day pick. This also follows last year's preseason when Gun challenged Battle to "take his (Warfield's) job". Of course this is pure speculation but, ¿what else is there to do in the offseason?

It gets really interesting because there are four CBs (Battle, Hodge, Sapp, Maxey) who might start or might not even be on the roster. Anyway, of the corners we currently have on the roster who do you think will start?
You may be onto something there.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:59 PM   #9
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The juicy tidbit is that we had 7 last year and he sees 9 this year (I'm guessing that means Hali and Pollard are being counted on to start right away).
I wonder if he means Battle starting at corner. I have a hard time seeing Pollard unseating Knight this season.
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:24 AM   #10
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I wonder if he means Battle starting at corner. I have a hard time seeing Pollard unseating Knight this season.
Agreed. I hope Pollard is everything the Chiefs think he is. But even so, I think he should alternate with Knight at most.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:15 PM   #11
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Who do I think will start? Surtain (duh) and Battle would be my early picks. I like Sapp a lot but I think he is too small to be a regular starter.
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Yeah, of our current CBs I would guess that Battle is Gun's first choice to start. But Battle may or may not be healthy.

* Battle has size and (did have) speed and has some limited NFL experience. Battle was also Gun's choice to start last year and then hurt himself. Is he healthy enough to play and/ or start this year?
* Sapp has NFL experience but is not prototypical CB size and I think Gun puts a premium on size and speed. Will Sapp's experience override his physical shortcomings and keep him on the roster?
* Hodge has size but was a day 2 pick, has only practice squad experience and was selected before Herm got here. Will Hodge's practice squad experience earn him a roster spot over Maxey?
* Maxey has size and speed but was a day 2 pick. Obviously, Maxey has no NFL experience and only limited college experience but he was chosen in the Herm Edwards era. Will we try to sneak him onto the practice squad this year to gain experience or will Gun be enamored by his physical attributes?
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:31 AM   #13
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Yeah, of our current CBs I would guess that Battle is Gun's first choice to start. But Battle may or may not be healthy.

* Battle has size and (did have) speed and has some limited NFL experience. Battle was also Gun's choice to start last year and then hurt himself. Is he healthy enough to play and/ or start this year?
* Sapp has NFL experience but is not prototypical CB size and I think Gun puts a premium on size and speed. Will Sapp's experience override his physical shortcomings and keep him on the roster?
* Hodge has size but was a day 2 pick, has only practice squad experience and was selected before Herm got here. Will Hodge's practice squad experience earn him a roster spot over Maxey?
* Maxey has size and speed but was a day 2 pick. Obviously, Maxey has no NFL experience and only limited college experience but he was chosen in the Herm Edwards era. Will we try to sneak him onto the practice squad this year to gain experience or will Gun be enamored by his physical attributes?
Good, well reasoned post.

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Nothing will make me happier than the sight of Battle as a stud CB. If nothing else, for the cool name he has. Seems like the Chiefs stopped filling the roster with cool names (Lanier, Hill, Otis Taylor, etc) after the Stram era and now are more into forgetable common names (Johnson, Wilson, Williams, etc.)
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:37 PM   #14
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First he said that "all great defenses have great safeties"

and if they had just drafted 3 defensive ends he would of said all great defenses start upfront.

he's a freakin' parrot who repeats whatever they tell him to repeat


i think that's part of the reason why Carl likes him so much ... easily controlled.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:56 PM   #15
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and if they had just drafted 3 defensive ends he would of said all great defenses start upfront.

he's a freakin' parrot who repeats whatever they tell him to repeat


i think that's part of the reason why Carl likes him so much ... easily controlled.
I have the deepest respect for your gridiron acumen, Mr. Laz. You are spectacularly well versed in the art. However, I don't know if Gun is easily controlled or not. In fact, he may lack the control lobe entirely.

In the past, I have observed behavior in Gun that would shame a drunken Planeteer.

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