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Old 02-28-2007, 10:40 AM   #1
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:26 AM   #2
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My dog dug up some old bones..there was a cloth covering them,it said Jesus Gonzalas..could it be???
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:48 AM   #3
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Regardless of whether he was actually resurrected or not.. I believe that he was an actual living person and that what he was able to do in his lifetime was amazing.

And the tenets that he espoused are great guidelines to live by... so what does it really matter if he was simply a mortal man or not in the grand scheme of things

That is where the "Leap of Faith" comes into play
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Old 02-27-2007, 09:59 AM   #4
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Regardless of whether he was actually resurrected or not.. I believe that he was an actual living person and that what he was able to do in his lifetime was amazing.
Which was what, exactly?
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:01 AM   #5
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Which was what, exactly?
Well.. was there Christianity before Christ?
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:04 AM   #6
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Well.. was there Christianity before Christ?
Wasn't that the job of those who survived? I mean, they all could have just said "the hell with it" and went home.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:11 AM   #7
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Wasn't that the job of those who survived? I mean, they all could have just said "the hell with it" and went home.
They did go home at first, actually (though they probably didn't word their decision to do so like that). It was when they saw Jesus alive that they returned to their ministry. To me, this may be one of the strongest arguments for the resurrection.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:08 AM   #8
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It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.
Another thing I thought of, the names Jesua (to put it in modern spelling, Joshua), Joseph, Mary, Matthew, etc.... those names were as common back then as they are now.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:52 AM   #9
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Glenn Beck is a Mormon...Mormon's really don't give Jesus he reverence that Christians do. In fact, Mormon's feel that that level of "holiness" can be achieved by man.

Glenn Beck is a watered-down, more charming version of Limbaugh with a better sense of humor. After a week, it gets old. He's a pretty shallow conservative, that loves to remind us that that his daughter has cerebral palsy or something like that.
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:54 PM   #10
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IM pretty biased....James Cameron is pretty much the best filmaker alive....

So No....
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM   #11
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I wonder why this would piss people off so much.

I don't know how much "proof" Cameron has, but even if it were 100% that this definitely was Jesus' remains, how does that change his message, his actions and his ideas? I don't get it. So he wasn't resurrected... his message still remains the same.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:46 PM   #12
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I wonder why this would piss people off so much.

I don't know how much "proof" Cameron has, but even if it were 100% that this definitely was Jesus' remains, how does that change his message, his actions and his ideas? I don't get it. So he wasn't resurrected... his message still remains the same.
Well the difference would be Jesus being a fine Humanitarian and being the risen Son of God...which is one of the more important parts of Christianity. Otherwise Christians would be far more similar to Buddhists.
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:55 PM   #13
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:48 PM   #14
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We're talking about people that believe dinosaurs and humans lived on Earth at the same time in history.
James Cameron making a dipshit documentary is NOT going to shake the faith in these people.
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Old 02-28-2007, 10:54 PM   #15
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We're talking about people that believe dinosaurs and humans lived on Earth at the same time in history.
James Cameron making a dipshit documentary is NOT going to shake the faith in these people.
You are assuming that only literalists are Christians.

Your statement is as erroneous as if I said that any idiot who pays to watch a first run movie stupidly believes the Hollywood precept of how life is supposed to be: If we all just focus on how we look to others then the world will be a better place.


There are a great many Christians, including Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Louis Pasteur, Werner Heisenberg, Marie Curie, and Linus Pauling who have no trouble understanding that Christianity (or in Einstein's case, Judaism) is not literally driven and actually works hand in hand with science.
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