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Old 04-21-2007, 03:37 PM   #1
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:41 PM   #2
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Last 2 seasons when both LJ and SJ were full time starters...

LJ
| 2005 kan | 16 | 336 1750 5.2 20 | 33 343 10.4 1 |
| 2006 kan | 16 | 416 1789 4.3 17 | 41 410 10.0 2 |


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| 2005 stl | 15 | 254 1046 4.1 8 | 43 320 7.4 2 |
| 2006 stl | 16 | 346 1528 4.4 13 | 90 806 9.0 3 |


LJ obviously owns him on the TD production, but Jackson is in what cannot be argued now as the better overall offense. And, if you think that will not help Jackson really explode in 2007... you're nuts.

The offensive talent around LJ is not what it was just a short 2 years ago and the offense around Jackson is improving. I think you're kidding yourself if you don't think Jackson is going to light it up in 2007.

LJ will be solid, but barring immediate improvements... I see his production declining in 2007.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:43 PM   #3
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Last 2 seasons when both LJ and SJ were full time starters...

LJ
| 2005 kan | 16 | 336 1750 5.2 20 | 33 343 10.4 1 |
| 2006 kan | 16 | 416 1789 4.3 17 | 41 410 10.0 2 |


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| 2005 stl | 15 | 254 1046 4.1 8 | 43 320 7.4 2 |
| 2006 stl | 16 | 346 1528 4.4 13 | 90 806 9.0 3 |


LJ obviously owns him on the TD production, but Jackson is in what cannot be argued now as the better overall offense. And, if you think that will not help Jackson really explode in 2007... you're nuts.

The offensive talent around LJ is not what it was just a short 2 years ago and the offense around Jackson is improving. I think you're kidding yourself if you don't think Jackson is going to light it up in 2007.

LJ will be solid, but barring immediate improvements... I see his production declining in 2007.

Actually, I'm Flopnuts. Seriously though, I think the Rams have much more talent around SJ than the Chiefs do LJ. If they were both on the same team I don't think there would be any argument as to who would spell the other.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:35 PM   #4
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Steven Jackson is a better "all around" RB than LJ in my opinion and no I'm not just referring to fantasy football.

LJ has been a phenom, no doubt... but he had 80 more carries in 2006 than in 2005 with only 39 more rushing yards. LJ's receiving skills are average.

I'm not hatin' on the guy.. just saying that he is NOT the midwest's version of LT.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:37 PM   #5
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Steven Jackson is a better "all around" RB than LJ in my opinion and no I'm not just referring to fantasy football.

LJ has been a phenom, no doubt... but he had 80 more carries in 2006 than in 2005 with only 39 more rushing yards. LJ's receiving skills are average.

I'm not hatin' on the guy.. just saying that he is NOT the midwest's version of LT.

The O Line had nothing to do with that of course.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:36 PM   #6
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:38 PM   #7
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Consider the system. LJ would be scary with that much talent around him.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:41 PM   #8
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Consider the system. LJ would be scary with that much talent around him.

Beat me to it. It's comparing Apples to Oranges. I think LJ would make Stephen Jackson look silly if they both played for the Rams.
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You guys must really not pay attention Steven Jackson is a great player.....he may not be as naturally gifted as a runner as LJ is but he's a better player because he's made himself good at more things.
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You guys must really not pay attention Steven Jackson is a great player.....he may not be as naturally gifted as a runner as LJ is but he's a better player because he's made himself good at more things.
Sadly, here in Springfield i have to watch a lot of Steven Jackson. His hands are marginally better & he's no top blocker either...Bulger gets dumped at an alarming rate.

Furthermore, SJ isnt NEARLY as physical as his size would indicate & he simply does NOT have the leg drive & pure power that Larry possesses.

I'll take LJ any day of the week.
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Sadly, here in Springfield i have to watch a lot of Steven Jackson. His hands are marginally better & he's no top blocker either...Bulger gets dumped at an alarming rate.

Furthermore, SJ isnt NEARLY as physical as his size would indicate & he simply does NOT have the leg drive & pure power that Larry possesses.

I'll take LJ any day of the week.
He's a greater injury risk, too. He runs way too upright.
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I'm not sure that, when it comes to LT's payday, the talent difference between the two backs is the main issue. My question is, why would you pay premium money for a back to run behind an o-line that can't block pop-ups?

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At least no one's talking about grammar in this thread.

My grammar is not as good as I once believed it to be. As the old adage goes "Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house."
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Nothing gets Chiefs fans worked up like trade rumors surrounding running back Larry Johnson..................

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Good Article. i've read far worse on the major sports networks.

BTW, i find it amusing how all the football "experts" on CP compare stats straight up of different backs in different systems.

Apple and oranges.

For example, how has Portis done since leaving DEN?
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