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Old 09-27-2007, 02:36 PM   #1
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They should be punished, but I hardly think this was attempted murder. That is way too extreme.
That's why there is so much outrage over the Jena 6. The kids there (who's actions basically mirror this) are being charged with attempted murder and face 100 years in prison.

This case and the Jena 6 case are worlds apart (no matter what some on this thread wish to believe).
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:02 AM   #2
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That's why there is so much outrage over the Jena 6. The kids there (who's actions basically mirror this) are being charged with attempted murder and face 100 years in prison.

This case and the Jena 6 case are worlds apart (no matter what some on this thread wish to believe).
Based on the few details that I know of that, I think the Jena 6 charges are over the top, too.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:15 AM   #3
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:21 AM   #4
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I got into an argument with a Korean kid one time. He threatened to fight me and I said, "What, just because you are Chinese I am supposed to think you know karate and be afraid of you?" He then kicked and hit me several times Mr. Miagi style.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:33 AM   #5
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The kid is lucky to have escaped permanent injury or death, against that many people theres no way to defend yourself. An incredibly ugly clip.

Were this thing reversed, it would undoubtedly be classified as a racially motivated beating & i would want them all hammered under the law.

IMO, anyone who thinks otherwise is being dishonest with themselves & everyone else.

My hunch is that this was a by-product of the Jena 6 case.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:37 AM   #6
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Were this thing reversed, it would undoubtedly be classified as a racially motivated beating & i would want them all hammered under the law.
Yup.

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My hunch is that this was a by-product of the Jena 6 case.
wtf I just thought we agreed that assuming a racially motivated crime was wrong. >:o
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:40 AM   #7
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Yup.



wtf I just thought we agreed that assuming a racially motivated crime was wrong. >:o
WHA???

Sometimes i could swear that your the Mecca/Contrarian of social issues.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:59 AM   #8
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I'm against hate crimes, but are you familiar with hate crime laws in Norfolk? Are there any?
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:07 PM   #9
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As time goes on my support for the idea of hate crime designation lessens.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:32 PM   #10
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:44 PM   #11
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You are still the joke of this board...if you agree with me on anything it makes take a second look.

No joke. Go somewhere and drum up some faux outrage.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:48 PM   #12
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You are still the joke of this board...if you agree with me on anything it makes take a second look.

No joke. Go somewhere and drum up some faux outrage.
Ah, poor wittle Zachy.....can't handle the fact that his naive and idealistic little Utopian bubble isn't the real world???

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'mon, wittle trooper. Gwow, up....tiger. Smile. It's okay...

You have to anyway; you might as well go with it.

It's liberating, actually....when one discovers the world for what it is....rather than the way we want to imagine it.

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Old 09-27-2007, 12:51 PM   #13
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Ah, poor wittle Zachy.....can't handle the fact that his naive and idealistic little Utopian bubble isn't the real world???

Tsssk, tsssk.....

'mon, wittle trooper. Gwow, up....tiger. Smile. It's okay...

You have to anyway; you might as well go with it.

It's liberating, actually....when one discovers the world for what it is....rather than the way we want to imagine it.

Have a great day.
Just calling them like I see them. You know you are the joke on this board. You don't even have the whole drunk thing as a crutch anymore. It is just who you are. Clown shoes.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:14 PM   #14
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There is already hate crime legislation

1990 Bush Sr. Signed the Hate Crimes Statistics Act which requires the US AG to collect hate crimes statistics

1994 Congress passed the Hate Crimes Sentencing Enhancement Act which allows federal judges to enhance a sentence by no less than three offense levels. protected classes are Race, Color, Religion, National Origin, Ethnicity, Gender, Disability or Sexual Orientation.

All states have various formes of this law some that date back to as early as the lates 70's and early 80's but vary greatly in who are the protected classes and what the punishment is
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