I've been saying it, Tom Brady just said, the Chiefs need to start doing it.

[donkhater]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Anyone who thinks Herm doesn't want to score pts is a ****ing moron. Plain and simple. His job is to win and you need to score to do that.

He just doesn't think it's REALISTIC to expect us to score around 30 pts a game. And he's right, we can't.

You know what that sounds like? It sounds like a parent who keeps telling his/her kids that they can't do something. After a while the kid starts to believe it and won't even try anymore.

If Herm/Solari keeps sitting onthe ball for fear of failure, this team (and QBotF) will never learn from their mistakes and always be scared to try and have absolutely NO faith inthe coaching staff. Isn't it happening already?

This is the same exact mindset that kept him from starting Croyle in the first place. Herm keeps saying he is building to something yet refuses to set the foundation in he needs in attitude. If he wants a smart, agressive football team on both sides of the ball, you have to let them learn.

OMG, what if Croyle throws an interception in that situation? We might lose. NEWS FLASH---YOU DID LOSE!!!!

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by donkhater

You know what that sounds like? It sounds like a parent who keeps telling his/her kids that they can't do something. After a while the kid starts to believe it and won't even try anymore.

If Herm/Solari keeps sitting onthe ball for fear of failure, this team (and QBotF) will never learn from their mistakes and always be scared to try and have absolutely NO faith inthe coaching staff. Isn't it happening already?

This is the same exact mindset that kept him from starting Croyle in the first place. Herm keeps saying he is building to something yet refuses to set the foundation in he needs in attitude. If he wants a smart, agressive football team on both sides of the ball, you have to let them learn.

OMG, what if Croyle throws an interception in that situation? We might lose. NEWS FLASH---YOU DID LOSE!!!!

This team isn't going to score 30 pts a week. Call whatever plays you want.

But Herm's gutted passing attack is what's keeping us from winning. Let the kid throw the ball and see what he can do. Open up the playbook, air the ball out, and see just how ready for a full offense he is.

We don't HAVE to score 30 pts a game. Getting that extra 7 in the 4th quarter when you're down by 3 would sure be nice...

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Anyone who thinks Herm doesn't want to score pts is a ****ing moron. .

Herm is very content at times to play for field position and play a defensive game where he hopes the other team will screw up to set up an offensive FG. His goal is not to score on every possession.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Herm is very content at times to play for field position and play a defensive game where he hopes the other team will screw up to set up an offensive FG. His goal is not to score on every possession.

Herm's problem is he expects the offense to play like the friggen 80's niners. If you throw enough dump off passes or quick outs eventually you'll break a big one.

Nein. You just complete a lot of passes short of a first down and allow the defense to crowd the line of scrimmage. We don't have Rice and Rickey Waters here, we have an old Holmes and a shat offensive line.

And I do think he wants to score on every possession. Unfortunately he ranks avoiding risk higher than getting into the end zone. Croyle did well with the play action and half-assed bootlegs we ran. I'd love to see us use Croyle the way Denver did with Plunger. Considering the state of our offensive line it might not be a bad idea to get him outside the pocket...

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Anyone who thinks Herm doesn't want to score pts is a ****ing moron. Plain and simple. His job is to win and you need to score to do that.

He just doesn't think it's REALISTIC to expect us to score around 30 pts a game. And he's right, we can't.

your're right we cant, not with HIM at the helm.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Anyone who thinks Herm doesn't want to score pts is a ****ing moron. Plain and simple. His job is to win and you need to score to do that.

He just doesn't think it's REALISTIC to expect us to score around 30 pts a game. And he's right, we can't.

I can assure you thing, he doesn't play to win the game like he makes it seem he does.

In the media he's portrayed as this tough SOB with balls, but in an actual game under certain situations and circumstances tell us otherwise. And that is what I hate about Herm. Why he needs to go as coach. Why he'll never win a SB, even though he proclaims to be a SB coach. He's only fooling himself by thinking that way.

He puts his team into a shell with conservative strategy, and cracks under pressure. He mismanages the game, and makes costly decisions in games. Herm has lost us 3 games this year. Count em 3!

I'll bet if Herm had a gunslingers mentality we would be scoring 30 points a game. After watching the game yesterday I sat down in disgust because of how conservative he is? We coulda won that game, and should of. We gave Indy the frikk'n game. Why didn't he try to score late in the 1st half? What's he afraid of? a turnover? Please. That's why I hate Herm. He coaches with no balls. And gets his team to play the exact same way.

How many times do you have to punt and give Indy a chances? I was pissed off because a couple of times we had the ball 4 and 1, 4 and 2 inside there zone and either elected to kick FG or punt it? And his kicker sucks balls.

Why not go for it? Is he so stupid to enough to not realize that Indy is the team you never want to give all the chances in the world to? Does he not know his kicker sucks?

It pisses me off. When you see team like the Patriots go for it, and TRY TRY to move the chains on 4th down to score points yet we do the opposite?

Herm=afraid

Herm=pussy

*This is why we suck. Because we have a coach who is timid.

[Skip Towne]

As inept as Herm is about offense, he needs an O wizard for OC. Not a n00b.

[Mecca]

I don't expect them to score 30 but there is no excuse to be the lowest scoring team in the league......have you guys seen say Atlanta, they've scored more points then the Chiefs, there's no excuse for that.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't expect them to score 30 but there is no excuse to be the lowest scoring team in the league......have you guys seen say Atlanta, they've scored more points then the Chiefs, there's no excuse for that.

Has Herm manned up and even admitted that it is his fault yet? I doubt it.

[Mr. Laz]

attitude is part of it ....... the Chiefs offensive and defensive players have picked up on Herm's attitude.

defense = good
offense = bad

this influences the play ..... there's no doubt in my mind that the Chiefs have the talent on offense RIGHT NOW to be ranked 15-ish in the league instead of 30-ish.

crappy coaching has cost us 10 ranking spots.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Laz

attitude is part of it ....... the Chiefs offensive and defensive players have picked up on Herm's attitude.

defense = good
offense = bad

this influences the play ..... there's no doubt in my mind that the Chiefs have the talent on offense RIGHT NOW to be ranked 15-ish in the league instead of 30-ish.

crappy coaching has cost us 10 ranking spots.

Agreed.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Laz

attitude is part of it ....... the Chiefs offensive and defensive players have picked up on Herm's attitude.

defense = good
offense = bad

this influences the play ..... there's no doubt in my mind that the Chiefs have the talent on offense RIGHT NOW to be ranked 15-ish in the league instead of 30-ish.

crappy coaching has cost us 10 ranking spots.

We don't have any less talent on offense than the Skins. One might argue that we have more talent. And they're ranked 18th in scoring, right around 20 points per game.

I use the Skins because of the same "scheme" (God, I hate that word). If we still approached the game with the same offensive mindset, used the same variety of plays, as the Skins, I bet we could average 20 points per game.

[RealSNR]

So we finish this season and we get 3 more years of strong D weak O mediocrity before we finally fire Herm and hire Mike Martz to go back to strong O weak D? BRILLIANT!

I love being a Chiefs fan.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by bobbything

We don't have any less talent on offense than the Skins. One might argue that we have more talent. And they're ranked 18th in scoring, right around 20 points per game.

I use the Skins because of the same "scheme" (God, I hate that word). If we still approached the game with the same offensive mindset, used the same variety of plays, as the Skins, I bet we could average 20 points per game.

our offensive line is just as talented as the Colts...

[Oh Snap]

the more you score, the more pressure you put on the other team, and the more they become one dimensional.

Herm is a good coach, he just needs to change his offensive philosophy. Its 2 decades to late for that type of game plan.

Todays NFL is all about scoring 30pts a game. We dont even score half that on average. somthings gotta give...

We have a star in the making in the WR core with bowe, a helluva future at qb with croyle, we just need to get the offensive line up to date and we could have a dominate team. The OL scheme doesnt work though. It needs to be changed.