The Patriots make a mockery of the Herm Way of Football - Page 2

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-09-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Ah, I should have known you were smarter than that. Carry on, then.

Thanks for giving me credit.

No one else does.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:07 PM

It just illustrates that in todays game you no longer set up the pass by running.....you set up the run by passing.

**morphius** · 12-09-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It just illustrates that in todays game you no longer set up the pass by running.....you set up the run by passing.

I'd disagree, it shows that in todays NFL you take advantage of your opponent. If they can't stop the run, you exploit that if they can't cover 3 WR's, you exploit that, etc, etc.

Hootie · 12-09-2007, 11:11 PM

Some teams can win with the run...teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh and even Indianapolis. The problem with our philosophy is we don't have the personnel to run the ball...our line is awful in both pass protection and run protection.

We can't use the pass to set up the run, and we can't use the run to set up the pass. In other words, we were ****ed from the beginning.

Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Some teams can win with the run...teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh and even Indianapolis. The problem with our philosophy is we don't have the personnel to run the ball...our line is awful in both pass protection and run protection.

We can't use the pass to set up the run, and we can't use the run to set up the pass. In other words, we were ****ed from the beginning.

Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?

Minnesota is 7-6 and was destroyed by Green Bay a few weeks back. In that game you had the Packers... a pass first team, score 30+ points and shut-out the "run first" Vikings you are refering to.

Pittsburgh is a run first team that was completely destroyed by the Patriots today... again a run first team being destroyed by a pass first team.

And calling the Colts, led by Peyton Manning and that passing game a team "winning with the run" is laughable.

**doomy3** · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Minnesota is 7-6 and was destroyed by Green Bay a few weeks back. In that game you had the Packers... a pass first team, score 30+ points and shut-out the "run first" Vikings you are refering to.

Pittsburgh is a run first team that was completely destroyed by the Patriots today... again a run first team being destroyed by a pass first team.

And calling the Colts, led by Peyton Manning and that passing game a team "winning with the run" is laughable.

I'm sure none of these games went the way they did because one team was more talented than the other team. Must be the scheme.

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?

Tony Gonzalez.

**doomy3** · 12-09-2007, 11:12 PM

This thread is retarted.

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:15 PM

When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a QB like Brady or Mannning or Romo? When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a playmaker at QB?

Are you just upset or is there really something wrong with you?

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a QB like Brady or Mannning or Romo? When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a playmaker at QB?

Are you just upset or is there really something wrong with you?

I go straight to the source...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/11...edwards__1114/

HERM EDWARDS: He can throw it and can make all the throws. That’s what he can do. What he has to do is be a manager of the game. He has to know when to take chances and know when not to take chances and score points. That’s what the quarterback has to do.”

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I go straight to the source...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/11...edwards__1114/

HERM EDWARDS: He can throw it and can make all the throws. That’s what he can do. What he has to do is be a manager of the game. He has to know when to take chances and know when not to take chances and score points. That’s what the quarterback has to do.”

Bringing a 2nd year QB along slowly really isn't the same thing as saying he doesn't want a playmaker at QB. If you really think Herm wouldn't trade Croyle for Brady I don't know what to tell you.

Hootie · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Well Indy runs the ball an awful lot...the Colts offense is all based off the play-action pass...and in order to run a play-action, you have to run the ball...so I guess that is laughable.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Well....I watched Herm go apeshit on Vinny some years back in NY. Vinny changed a play threw a 50 yard TD and Herm went ballistic on him.....I think that's all we need to know about Herm.

**Bowser** · 12-09-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well....I watched Herm go apeshit on Vinny some years back in NY. Vinny changed a play threw a 50 yard TD and Herm went ballistic on him.....I think that's all we need to know about Herm.

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have details or specifics of that game?

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have details or specifics of that game?

It was in the middle of the game, it was just a general game situation I remember thinking I've never seen a coach be that pissed to score. Herm really thinks big plays that score quickly are bad.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Some teams can win with the run...teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh and even Indianapolis. The problem with our philosophy is we don't have the personnel to run the ball...our line is awful in both pass protection and run protection. We can't use the pass to set up the run, and we can't use the run to set up the pass. In other words, we were ****ed from the beginning. Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?
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el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $2429148	When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a QB like Brady or Mannning or Romo? When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a playmaker at QB? Are you just upset or is there really something wrong with you?
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Well Indy runs the ball an awful lot...the Colts offense is all based off the play-action pass...and in order to run a play-action, you have to run the ball...so I guess that is laughable.
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