Ellis Hobbs, Asanti Samuel, and Brandon Merriweather

**FRCDFED** · 12-29-2007, 10:24 PM

Three quality starting DB's drafting by the Patriots in the last few years yet we can't draft even one

HolmeZz · 12-29-2007, 10:26 PM

What the fuck has Meriweather ever done?

**Smed1065** · 12-29-2007, 10:27 PM

But we have herm...

Reerun_KC · 12-29-2007, 10:28 PM

Everyone knows how GREAT of a talent evaluator Herm is, We will be okay!

Just look at the talent he left in NYJ...

Mecca · 12-29-2007, 10:28 PM

His point is still just for the most part even though Meriweather isn't asked to play much...

Samuel and Hobbs are mid round picks that start and play well.

Micjones · 12-29-2007, 10:29 PM

We'll have a shot at a good Corner in this year's draft class.

**Buehler445** · 12-29-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Everyone knows how GREAT of a talent evaluator Herm is, We will be okay!

Just look at the talent he left in NYJ...

Yeah, he said there was something like 18 players left on that roster from him. If they were so great, I'd think there would be at least 30 something there still. Its only been 2 years.

BAH! Hopefully Herm can avoid the suckage becuase it seems to me that he ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

Rasputin · 12-29-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

But we have herm...

What are you talking about? Herm can develop any young CB from the draft just look what he did with Marcus Maxey.

**FRCDFED** · 12-29-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

What the fuck has Meriweather ever done?

Merriweather is a solid player, although he is expected to be as I believe he was a 1st rounder.

He is just playing behind better talent at the moment.

**FRCDFED** · 12-29-2007, 10:40 PM

Hobbs and Samuel are both very athletic playmakers!

Messier · 12-29-2007, 10:43 PM

Drafting well in the mid rounds is a crap shoot. Just like the Chiefs getting Allen in the fourth. Do you think that was some brilliant plan to get the best pass rusher later in the draft and fool everyone? Any player taken in the later rounds that turns out to be great is luck.

**FRCDFED** · 12-29-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Drafting well in the mid rounds is a crap shoot. Just like the Chiefs getting Allen in the fourth. Do you think that was some brilliant plan to get the best pass rusher later in the draft and fool everyone? Any player taken in the later rounds that turns out to be great is luck.

Focus on DB's for the purposes of this thread as the attributes that makes a quality starter are different than that of a DE. Primarily athleticism, speed, size, range, and the ability to read the QB and play in space. DB's stand out in college because they work in space and should be easier to evaluate considering their successes and mistakes are out in the open for all to see.

Messier · 12-29-2007, 10:55 PM

Well then getting Benny Sapp as an undrafted free agent should be seen as a good move. He's not starter material, but he's a good player I wish we had more like him, he's quick to the ball, a great tackler with good motor.

HolmeZz · 12-29-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bhud

Merriweather is a solid player, although he is expected to be as I believe he was a 1st rounder.

He is just playing behind better talent at the moment.

He rarely sees the field. Complaining about us not drafting someone like him is silly.

crossbow · 12-29-2007, 11:18 PM

Don't pay attention to what the Pats do. Herm and Carl have it all figured out. Here is how they plan to build a championship team.

1) Give the tailback a cap busting contract.
2) Hire incompetent friends to manage the player evaluation department.
3) Sign some 30 year old Tackles that were never all that good so your QBs can get hammered every game.
4) Get rid of one of the best offensive coordinators in the NFL and hope the line coach can magicaly take his place.
5) Don't resign your all-pro fullback and then announce to the entire NFL that you plan to run the ball all day.
6) Squander your 5th round pick on a kicker so you can cut him after three games.

New England is to be pittied. They scored 38 points against the Giants. Don't they realize that you only do that in Arena football? 21 points is a lot! They should have saved some of those points for later.

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FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Hobbs and Samuel are both very athletic playmakers!
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12-29-2007, 10:43 PM	#11
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	Drafting well in the mid rounds is a crap shoot. Just like the Chiefs getting Allen in the fourth. Do you think that was some brilliant plan to get the best pass rusher later in the draft and fool everyone? Any player taken in the later rounds that turns out to be great is luck.
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12-29-2007, 10:55 PM	#13
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	Well then getting Benny Sapp as an undrafted free agent should be seen as a good move. He's not starter material, but he's a good player I wish we had more like him, he's quick to the ball, a great tackler with good motor.
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12-29-2007, 11:18 PM	#15
crossbow King of Sarcasm Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: at home Casino cash: $10004900	Don't pay attention to what the Pats do. Herm and Carl have it all figured out. Here is how they plan to build a championship team. 1) Give the tailback a cap busting contract. 2) Hire incompetent friends to manage the player evaluation department. 3) Sign some 30 year old Tackles that were never all that good so your QBs can get hammered every game. 4) Get rid of one of the best offensive coordinators in the NFL and hope the line coach can magicaly take his place. 5) Don't resign your all-pro fullback and then announce to the entire NFL that you plan to run the ball all day. 6) Squander your 5th round pick on a kicker so you can cut him after three games. New England is to be pittied. They scored 38 points against the Giants. Don't they realize that you only do that in Arena football? 21 points is a lot! They should have saved some of those points for later.
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