Chiefs Possible Chiefs\Saints trade - Page 11

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Roaf had a blown knee, he did have an issue. and then tack on the Horn thing.

Or it could simply be the fact that Brown has been injured every year he's been with them and they've had guys fill in that have done a good job, so they feel they can move him to gain value at another position, and the Chiefs happen to have a need at his position and a draft pick that they covet to get one of the guys they want to make the team better overall since they feel getting our #5 will let them select a player that will improve their team overall than having additional depth at a position their comfortable with.

Not really shocking- still think their giving up more than 1 would expect, but they are moving from top 10 to top 5... that's not a small jump, and I'm one that has devalued the idea of top 5 players in the draft b/c usually you end up paying them way more to sign than what they really end up contributing.

Brock · 04-25-2008, 08:12 PM

He's been injured every year, I'd think that's it. No thanks.

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

A team wouldn't trade a mid 20s LT for no reason.......he has to have some issue, either that or they think he's not that good.

True or just maybe they feel they can replace him with current a player.

**Skip Towne** · 04-25-2008, 09:29 PM

Maybe they have someone who is better. Any number of reasons.

Messier · 04-25-2008, 08:08 PM

I don't think teams only trade a player when there is something wrong with them.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2008, 08:14 PM

Roaf got moved simply because Horn donked his wife and refused to play, and given his age he wasn't going to command more than a 2nd. They got a 3rd... Saints decided that it was smarter to keep the younger player, not a real mindboggler there.

Don't buy into the idea that the Saints thought he was spent. The guy spent 1/2 his time walking around like a cripple, but once the ball was snapped he dominated. Health concerns were not the deciding factor in the Roaf move.

SBK · 04-25-2008, 08:39 PM

I got a tag. Perhaps if I was in the trade down each pick then I'd be cool....

**KcMizzou** · 04-25-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK

I got a tag. Perhaps if I was in the trade down each pick then I'd be cool....

Nobody's saying the Chiefs should trade down each pick, and you know it. What the Saints are (possibly) offering is too good to pass up.

I agree that it seems too good to be true, and it does make me wonder. But that said, we'd be kicking ourselves in the ass if we didn't take advantage of another team's blunder for once.

I DON'T agree that trading down is a bad idea no matter the circumstances.

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 09:43 PM

If he's only good for a few more years that's a no go, this team won't be ready for a few years.

tiptap · 04-25-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If he's only good for a few more years that's a no go, this team won't be ready for a few years.

That is at the worst. And all selections are speculative against injuries in the long run. The known is the high caliber of play when he is on the line.

tk13 · 04-25-2008, 09:52 PM

Logically speaking, if you trusted your scouting department, this is a trade you probably should make. Because, no matter the 8 billion mock draft possibilities... there is going to be someone that everybody thinks is really good who somehow slips down to that 10 spot. It happens every single year.

That doesn't mean I think we should trade down, there might be a player we really really want who we should just target at 5 that we think is going to be a HOF type game changer, you can't pass that up. But if they aren't there, a really good scouting department would probably make this trade and totally annihilate this draft. If you could get Brown, a 3rd, and a 6th/7th....you could literally be adding 15-16 new players to the team this weekend. That is incredible. If you do it right, you'd shorten the "rebuilding" process quite a bit.

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 09:53 PM

If you trade to 10 you start praying to god that Keith Rivers drops to 10....

JBucc · 04-25-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you trade to 10 you start praying to god that Keith Rivers drops to 10....

Gosselin has us taking him at 17

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

Gosselin has us taking him at 17

I will be SHOCKED if he falls that far.

HolmeZz · 04-25-2008, 10:28 PM

Rivers is overrated. If we're going to go linebacker, Mayo's the better player.

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Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9439340	Roaf got moved simply because Horn donked his wife and refused to play, and given his age he wasn't going to command more than a 2nd. They got a 3rd... Saints decided that it was smarter to keep the younger player, not a real mindboggler there. Don't buy into the idea that the Saints thought he was spent. The guy spent 1/2 his time walking around like a cripple, but once the ball was snapped he dominated. Health concerns were not the deciding factor in the Roaf move. __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	I got a tag. Perhaps if I was in the trade down each pick then I'd be cool....
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-2007500	Logically speaking, if you trusted your scouting department, this is a trade you probably should make. Because, no matter the 8 billion mock draft possibilities... there is going to be someone that everybody thinks is really good who somehow slips down to that 10 spot. It happens every single year. That doesn't mean I think we should trade down, there might be a player we really really want who we should just target at 5 that we think is going to be a HOF type game changer, you can't pass that up. But if they aren't there, a really good scouting department would probably make this trade and totally annihilate this draft. If you could get Brown, a 3rd, and a 6th/7th....you could literally be adding 15-16 new players to the team this weekend. That is incredible. If you do it right, you'd shorten the "rebuilding" process quite a bit.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-802950	If you trade to 10 you start praying to god that Keith Rivers drops to 10....
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