Would you have Drafted differently?

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77

I believe that this draft was the best in KC Chiefs history. I do think some picks were crappy like the Merrit kid and Will Franklin. I say we couldve gotton Booty Flynn or Johnson in those rounds. The pick that made me mad the most was Merritt. We dont need 4 TE's. But overall Id give KC an A-

You were most pissed off about a 7th round TE?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Raiderh8ter77

I believe that this draft was the best in KC Chiefs history. I do think some picks were crappy like the Merrit kid and Will Franklin. I say we couldve gotton Booty Flynn or Johnson in those rounds. The pick that made me mad the most was Merritt. We dont need 4 TE's. But overall Id give KC an A-

I'd have to say that the 1961 draft that included EJ Holub, Jim Tyrer, Jerry Mays, and Fred Arbanas was a pretty good one.

Although, technically, that was while still the Dallas Texans.

All part of the core that played in two SBs.

Also included in that draft was Bob Lily, who signed with the Cowboys, and Curtis McClinton, who was pretty productive in his short time.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'd have to say that the 1961 draft that included EJ Holub, Jim Tyrer, Jerry Mays, and Fred Arbanas was a pretty good one.

Although, technically, that was while still the Dallas Texans.

All part of the core that played in two SBs.

Also included in that draft was Bob Lily, who signed with the Cowboys, and Curtis McClinton, who was pretty productive in his short time.

Or 1963 with Buck Buchanan, Ed Budde, and Bobby Bell.

[Mr. Laz]

it's like they lost their focus or something on day 2

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Laz

it's like they lost their focus or something on day 2

What do you think is a bad pick honestly?

[Rain Man]

My question to people is, "Would you really have drafted all of the exact same players?" It's not an indictment of the Chiefs to say that you would have drafted some different players. I think a fun exercise would be to have everyone pretend they were GM, draft people who were available at or after each Chiefs pick, and then we'll come back in a year and see who would've had the best draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm not necessarily saying I'd do things differently, but here's an idea I thought I'd float out there:

Assuming the rest of the Draft played out the way it did...

1. DT Glenn Dorsey
1. OT Jeff Otah (no trade up)
2. DE Quentin Groves
3. MLB Dan Connor
3. WR Early Doucet
3. DB Tyvon Branch
4. C Kory Lichtensteiger
5. OG Roy Schuening
5. QB Josh Johnson
6. OT Barry Richardson
6. DE Chris Harrington
7. CB Wilroy Fontenot
7. RB Allen Patrick

Sorry, I hate your draft. HATE.

Otah doesn't have nearly the athleticism as Albert (or talent), Connor doesn't fit the scheme, Doucet is small, slow and has a history of injuries, Lichtensteiger is a project and doesn't fit the scheme, Josh Johnson is a MAJOR project and the 7th round players don't stand a chance.

The Chiefs drafted players that will contribute and at least 4 or 5 stand to be home runs. Pro Bowl players (Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Morgan & Charles).

Your draft reeks of "potential".

I HATE "potential".

[Mecca]

I want to show you guys something a draft site listed before the draft "top 10 values for where they are expected to be picked" guess who 2 of those guys were...

Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas, 2nd Round
This guy is too good to be a 2nd round talent. The only reason Charles could drop into the 2nd round is because of the strong depth at running back in the NFL Draft. If Charles would have stayed in college, he would be the top 2009 NFL Draft running back prospect. Running a 4.38 40 only showed more proof that this guy is for real if his 1,619 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns, and 6.3 yards per carry was not proof enough. I will be rooting for Charles on draft day, but at the same time be bitter toward aggressive agents who persuade these kids to leave school early only for them to sacrifice millions of dollars.

Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson – late 4th to early 6th Round
Richardson probably is suffering from Brian Brohm syndrome, where his stock has dropped after deciding to stay in college. Richardson has great size at 6-7, 338 lbs. and was a four year starter for Clemson, but many analysts are saying “lacks the intensity.” Well for Richardson that is good news because that’s one weakness that he can improve on, unlike height and a vast change in 40 speed. If Richardson has that light bulb come on in his head and plays like the giant beast that he can, then he will be a phenomenal steal. Physically, Richardson is everything you want from an offensive tackle.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I want to show you guys something a draft site listed before the draft "top 10 values for where they are expected to be picked" guess who 2 of those guys were...

Jamaal Charles, RB, Texas, 2nd Round
This guy is too good to be a 2nd round talent. The only reason Charles could drop into the 2nd round is because of the strong depth at running back in the NFL Draft. If Charles would have stayed in college, he would be the top 2009 NFL Draft running back prospect. Running a 4.38 40 only showed more proof that this guy is for real if his 1,619 rushing yards, 18 touchdowns, and 6.3 yards per carry was not proof enough. I will be rooting for Charles on draft day, but at the same time be bitter toward aggressive agents who persuade these kids to leave school early only for them to sacrifice millions of dollars.

Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson – late 4th to early 6th Round
Richardson probably is suffering from Brian Brohm syndrome, where his stock has dropped after deciding to stay in college. Richardson has great size at 6-7, 338 lbs. and was a four year starter for Clemson, but many analysts are saying “lacks the intensity.” Well for Richardson that is good news because that’s one weakness that he can improve on, unlike height and a vast change in 40 speed. If Richardson has that light bulb come on in his head and plays like the giant beast that he can, then he will be a phenomenal steal. Physically, Richardson is everything you want from an offensive tackle.

The more I read about our draft the more impressed I am with it. And I thought it was killer by the end of Sunday.....

[DT Fan]

Count me in the group that was hoping for Early Doucet with that second third round pick. I know, I know -- he's short and slow -- but I think he'll be a productive possession receiver in the NFL and he'd be penciled in as a starter for us from day 1.

So I guess Doucet over Cottam and/or an OL with the last pick (since I think we could have signed Merritt as UDFA), but that's a really minor quibble.

I also give the FO credit for a couple of things -- picking Richardson in the 7th (if we had picked him 4th or 5th, I doubt anyone here would have minded), pulling the trigger on DeJuan Morgan even though safety is not our biggest area of need (that guy was easily BPA at that point in the draft), and drafting a potential kick returner. Drafting a pure KR late isn't something I thought about before the draft, but it makes a lot of sense.

[BigChiefFan]

Connor can play outside, too, but the entire point is, he can play the 4-3. Here's more proof that Mecca is FOS on this and just can't admit it...
Dan Connor, LB, Carolina Panthers: The key to the Panthers defense hinges on the play of the linebackers, and Connor gives them a playmaker to offset the loss of oft-injured Dan Morgan in the middle. Although Connor's position has yet to be defined, his ability to play inside or outside gives defensive coordinator Mike Trgovac the option of sliding Jon Beason over to weak-side linebacker in their base defense. With Connor in the middle flanked by Thomas Davis and Beason on the edges, the Panthers have the speed to clog up running lanes in their 4-3 defense.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Connor can play outside, too, but the entire point is, he can play the 4-3. Here's more proof that Mecca is FOS on this and just can't admit it...
Dan Connor, LB, Carolina Panthers: The key to the Panthers defense hinges on the play of the linebackers, and Connor gives them a playmaker to offset the loss of oft-injured Dan Morgan in the middle. Although Connor's position has yet to be defined, his ability to play inside or outside gives defensive coordinator Mike Trgovac the option of sliding Jon Beason over to weak-side linebacker in their base defense. With Connor in the middle flanked by Thomas Davis and Beason on the edges, the Panthers have the speed to clog up running lanes in their 4-3 defense.

That isn't contrary to anything mecca has ever said about Connor.

I believe he even said Connar is a good fit for the Panthers.

He just doesn't believe that Connar is a good fit in the Chiefs cover two.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by milkman

That isn't contrary to anything mecca has ever said about Connor.

I believe he even said Connar is a good fit for the Panthers.

He just doesn't believe that Connar is a good fit in the Chiefs cover two.

Sorry, but the cover two is part of a 4-3 base defense. Mecca is flat-out wrong about Connor, saying he can't play in the scheme-it's proven that he can. No big deal, just want to set the record straight.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Sorry, but the cover two is part of a 4-3 base defense. Mecca is flat-out wrong about Connor, saying he can't play in the scheme-it's proven that he can. No big deal, just want to set the record straight.

Yes, a cover two can be part of the 4-3 package, but it is not the base defense for the Panthers.

The 4-3 is the base defense for the Chiefs.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by milkman

Yes, a cover two can be part of the 4-3 package, but it is not the base defense for the Panthers.

The 4-3 is the base defense for the Chiefs.

I wonder where the chiefs were projecting him to play when they were considering him at 73, inside or outside? It would be interesting to find that out.

Just wondering.