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Old 08-14-2008, 10:17 AM   #1
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Very well said, I couldn't agree more. Everyone knows it's inconsiderate to use foul language in public, the difference is that some people just don't care.
Being inconsiderate shouldn't result in a ticket/arrest.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:39 AM   #2
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Being inconsiderate shouldn't result in a ticket/arrest.
From the writeup, its hard to get a fair gauge of just how agitated and upset this women was. Who knows? It does sound like he tried at first to be polite and asked her to stop.

If she became uncontrollable then what should he have done?
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:46 AM   #3
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From the writeup, its hard to get a fair gauge of just how agitated and upset this women was. Who knows? It does sound like he tried at first to be polite and asked her to stop.

If she became uncontrollable then what should he have done?
Walk away? If she became uncontrollable after he talked to her then obviously he is causing the situation to escalate (not saying he did anything to cause this to happen, just that she was not being receptive to his attempts to calm her). I agree with the earlier post with the suggestion of going to the management of the store.

I applaud the guy for stepping up and asking her to watch her language. But the idea of it resulting in a citation is over the line IMO.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:50 AM   #4
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From the writeup, its hard to get a fair gauge of just how agitated and upset this women was. Who knows? It does sound like he tried at first to be polite and asked her to stop.

If she became uncontrollable then what should he have done?
Uncontrollable how? Cursing more? Screaming? Getting physical? I agree that we don't have enough information.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:58 AM   #5
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Being inconsiderate shouldn't result in a ticket/arrest.


What would be the appropriate number of times for him to tell the woman to stop?
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Old 08-14-2008, 11:03 AM   #6
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What would be the appropriate number of times for him to tell the woman to stop?
Why should she have to listen? Last I checked it's not against the law to be rude.
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Old 08-14-2008, 08:57 AM   #7
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:09 AM   #8
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Think she had a marlboro hanging out of her lips when she told the fire marshall to (I'm quoting Dick Cheney here) "Go F Yourself?"
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:22 AM   #9
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While I don't condone her actions I hate to see us start going down the slippery slope of legislating morality. IMO what the fire marshall should've done is notify the store management of her behavior, and they could ask her to leave the store. If she refused, then she would be breaking the law and he could take action, and if management didn't care, he could take his business elsewhere.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:29 AM   #10
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While I don't condone her actions I hate to see us start going down the slippery slope of legislating morality. IMO what the fire marshall should've done is notify the store management of her behavior, and they could ask her to leave the store. If she refused, then she would be breaking the law and he could take action, and if management didn't care, he could take his business elsewhere.


I don't think it's a morality issue as much as a common decency issue. As long as the Fire Marshal isn't out looking to ticket people who curse it's probably not anything to worry about. I imagine it's an isolated incident involving one very rude woman.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:37 AM   #11
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While I don't condone her actions I hate to see us start going down the slippery slope of legislating morality. IMO what the fire marshall should've done is notify the store management of her behavior, and they could ask her to leave the store. If she refused, then she would be breaking the law and he could take action, and if management didn't care, he could take his business elsewhere.
I agree with this completely.

Sounds to me like the Assistant Fire Marshall found himself to be a little too self important in this situation.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:47 AM   #12
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I don't think it's a morality issue as much as a common decency issue. As long as the Fire Marshal isn't out looking to ticket people who curse it's probably not anything to worry about. I imagine it's an isolated incident involving one very rude woman.
Fair enough, but it's not really that much easier to define what is decent and what isn't. Sure, we can all agree that walking around naked isn't decent, but after that the line can get a little blurry.


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I agree with this completely.

Sounds to me like the Assistant Fire Marshall found himself to be a little too self important in this situation.
Eh, I commend him for feeling he needed to take some kind of action, I just don't agree with the action he took.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:59 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=GoBo;4914069]Fair enough, but it's not really that much easier to define what is decent and what isn't. Sure, we can all agree that walking around naked isn't decent, but after that the line can get a little blurry.
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True, but in reading the article it doesn't sound as though the marshal was looking to give her a ticket. Sounds like he was just trying to get her to watch her mouth. If the guy's trying to be the morality police, now that would be another story.

And really, I can't see any reason why it would be necessary for someone to be dropping clearly audible F-bombs at the local Walmart. I get aggravated every time I go in one of those stores but I wait until I get outside to cuss.
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:51 AM   #14
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I agree with this completely.

Sounds to me like the Assistant Fire Marshall found himself to be a little too self important in this situation.
Heh,I'm sure,when the extent of his career involves writing tickets for expired extinguishers
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:51 AM   #15
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