Did anyone see the pass interference on the 5th down at the end of the game?

[Programmer]

It was an obvious foul, but the Chiefs got 5 downs at the end of the game.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by Programmer

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That's five and holding the arms before the ball gets there is pretty much the definition of pass interference.

NOT when the DEFENDER has position it's not.

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Programmer only has two modes: he's either saying something that's wrong, or he's not saying anything at all.

didn't watch the game did you?

[Shag]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

ONeal had position though; the WR can't come-back through a defender who has position.

Position is irrelevant if the DB makes an action to prevent the WR's right to the ball. The camera angle was bad, but it looked like O'Neal reached out with his left arm and prevented Bowe from extending his arms for the catch. If that's indeed what happened, it's PI.

Bowe wasn't trying to go through him, anyway...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Programmer

Bowe, to incompletes in the end zone.

Gonzales one incomplete

LJ failed run

Bowe third incomplete with the defender holding his arms.

That's five and holding the arms before the ball gets there is pretty much the definition of pass interference.

THEY CALLED TO BEFORE THE FIRST PLAY

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

STILL HELD DOWN HIS ARMS THAT"S PI

Go read the rule book. Listen to CBS's call; Dan Dierdorf explained it exactly right.

[Mr. Laz]

2 fade passes to the left to bowe
1 running play
1 5 yard curl to tony
1 fade stop to the right to bowe

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

NOT when the DEFENDER has position it's not.

The defender was falling into Bowe, facing the QB, but you still cannot hold the receivers arms and he was not going for the ball.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

NOT when the DEFENDER has position it's not.

what position an armbar over the receiver's hands? watch it again he reaches out and holds his arms, the db was going towards the ball also and reaches back!

[Programmer]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

ONeal had position though; the WR can't come-back through a defender who has position.

That still does not change the fact that he was holding his arms.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Go read the rule book. Listen to CBS's call; Dan Dierdorf explained it exactly right.

oh yeah cbs will talk down the pats. DID YOU WATCH THE GAME> THEY HAVE CBS ZONE RIGHT THERE

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Programmer

find a tape and watch it again.

I've already watched it several times.

1) As people have said to you several times, the first play NEVER COUNTED. That makes your "5th down" call incorrect.

2) I think the PI complaint is people nitpicking about something that will not be called 99% of the time. Just like holding, there are some things that will never be called, depending on the game/situation/part of the field/obvious-ness. That type of "arm bar" happens on nearly every pass play.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

it was within 5 yards of the LOS....

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

ONeal had position though; the WR can't come-back through a defender who has position.

The defender can't reach back and hold down his arm.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

what position an armbar over the receiver's hands? watch it again he reaches out and holds his arms, the db was going towards the ball also and reaches back!

Defender had every right to the ball; he had better position. ONEAL was fighting for the ball at that point.

If Huard had not under-thrown the ball, it wouldn't have been an issue. It's Huard's fault. Period.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

The defender can't reach back and hold down his arm.

If the CB is trying to make a catch, and has position....in coming back to the ball, the WR is now actually the "defender" and subject to the interference call.