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Old 09-23-2008, 04:18 PM   #1
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Let's see, we're on our third or fourth major scheme overhaul in what 5 years? That's not consistency. And, I'll bet you we've run through at least a dozen linebackers in that time ... maybe more than to 20 come to think of it. Anybody remember Monty Beisel or Quinton Caver?

You can't build any kind of defense with that kind of massive turnover at those key positions ... let alone a C2.

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Old 09-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #2
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Is it the D tackles, D ends, linebackers, schemes? What is it?
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:55 PM   #3
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The breakdown was predictable. Last year, in games that Allen was not in the backfield all day long, our D was awful. Allen's play-making ability hid the fact that we still appear to run the headless chicken defense.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:10 PM   #4
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Is it the D tackles, D ends, linebackers, schemes? What is it?
Well since you asked....

Now it has been pointed out that in the cover 2 you need quick, pass rushing DTs to get pressure from all 4 D-linemen but give me two huge 340+ fatties any day of the week.

They rarely can be moved and require a lot of double teams. a la the Raven's old D with Tony Siragusa & Sam Adams.

With Tank Tyler at 6'2 306 and Glenn Dorsey at 6'1 297, I've got to question their ability to hold up against mauling 320+ Guards which are common in today's NFL.

Just my opinion..... Guess it doesn't help that our LBers are playing horrible either though.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:42 PM   #5
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:31 PM   #6
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My current state of mind is telling me that it can no longer be about the talent or the players we have. It has to be about the coaching.

If it's not about the coaching....and we truly have had the worst talent on the defensive side of the ball for almost 10 years now.....Then Stevie Wonder must be our director of scouting/player personnel.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:42 PM   #7
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My current state of mind is telling me that it can no longer be about the talent or the players we have. It has to be about the coaching.

If it's not about the coaching....and we truly have had the worst talent on the defensive side of the ball for almost 10 years now.....Then Stevie Wonder must be our director of scouting/player personnel.
I just went back and took a look at our rosters from 2005 on, Mr. DJJasonp. It's absolutely mind boggling how many linebackers we've brought in during that period. It's over 20. Over 20 linebackers have come and gone in 4 years and we still don't have a trio that can get the job done. Some of those guys were brought on for depth or the PS or ST, no doubt, but most of them played or were backups. Bell, Fox, Barber, Mitchell, the list goes on and on. That boggles.

We cannot seem to sort out who needs to play linebacker or where to find them. Plus, you can't tell me that DJ came out of college without the potential to be a very solid player in this league. It's coaching. Or player evaluation. Or something along those lines. It has to be.

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