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Old 09-24-2008, 07:47 AM   #1
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It's an observation. A lot of people are jumping on the QB bandwagon even though they were diehard "best player" draft afficcianados in the past.
You do realize that in all likely hood Stafford is going to have a top 5 grade on him.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:59 AM   #2
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You do realize that in all likely hood Stafford is going to have a top 5 grade on him.
There is always a QB with a top 5 grade.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:50 AM   #3
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It's just a bad year for QB's.
Stafford has a better combination of pedigree and upside than any QB in the previous two draft classes.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:49 AM   #4
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I read somewhere a couple weeks ago, that Stafford has Carson Palmer type of tools, and thats something you dont see very often
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:51 AM   #5
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I read somewhere a couple weeks ago, that Stafford has Carson Palmer type of tools, and thats something you dont see very often
I don't know about that. He's got the arm strength and the build, but his mechanics aren't nearly as good as Palmer's, which were pretty much immaculate. They called him The Human Juggs Machine, and it wasn't because he liked titties. That's not to say he couldn't be Palmer, but he's not the refined product that Palmer was, who was a complete package.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:14 AM   #6
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I read somewhere a couple weeks ago, that Stafford has Carson Palmer type of tools, and thats something you dont see very often
That is completely accurate, despite what some on here may lead you to believe. Myself, Mecca, and others have said Stafford has elite tools and should tear up the combine, but the only question is if he takes the big step forward in production on the field.

Personally, he reminds me a lot of Eli Manning as a junior at Ole Miss. Everyone knew he had the tools to be an All Pro QB and a #1 overall pick, but we were just waiting to see him actually follow-through on it.

Stafford is barely into his junior season and plays in a fairly conservative offense, but a couple times a game he'll make passes that no one else in the country can make. The guy is a stud, and by the end of the year he will be a no-brainer top five pick.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:54 AM   #7
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Stafford reminds me alot of Jay Cutler if you want my honest opinion.
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:24 AM   #8
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Stafford reminds me alot of Jay Cutler if you want my honest opinion.
I thought the same thing about Stafford he looks like a clone of Cutler and he is a five tool player. I am on the bandwagon to get this kid he is tough and can scramble if need be and has an uncanny arm.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:16 AM   #9
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Lets also realize that even though he has Moreno he has very pedestrian WR's the first real WR he's gotten to work with is AJ Green who is a true freshman and already their best WR.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:16 AM   #10
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The next 5 weeks Georgia has a brutal schedule. We'll see if Stafford can step up consistently.
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My primary hesitation with Stafford is his accuracy. Half of his games in 2007 he was under 55% in completion percentage.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:50 AM   #12
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Who else can we trade from our roster for another 1st round pick? Sams?
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Who else can we trade from our roster for another 1st round pick? Sams?
The sad thing is that trading a 1st FOR a player has worked out better than trading a player for a first.

Who's that QB (not Rogers) the Packers drafted again? How easy would he be to pry away?...
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Ok.........

Young redshirted

Roethlisberger redshirted

Rodgers did not redshirt, he played as a freshman at a junior college then transferred to Cal for his sophomore and junior seasons before leaving early.

Bledsoe I don't believe he redshirted but I'm not completely sure on this I'm going with the idea that he didn't.

Vick-redshirted

Couch-didn't redshirt

Russell-didn't redshirt

Maddox-redshirted as he left after his sophomore season

Grossman-redshirted

Marinovich-redshirted

Mirer-didn't redshirt

Ware-I don't believe he redshirted but not completely sure

Shuler-I don't believe he redshirted also not completely sure on this one

Ryan Leaf-didn't redshirt

Alex Smith-didn't redshirt

So there you go, there is the list.
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You have to take into account some things, a couple of those guys were gimmick offense guys, some of them were taken in the middle to the end of the round.
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