Let's put all the QB talk right here

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

We've been over this before: The biggest stat that correlates with NFL success is completion percentage.

This year, Sam Bradford has completed 79% of his passes, including against a tough Cinci D. Further, we will get to see him against: Kansas, Texas Tech, Texas, TCU and likely Missouri (Big 12 Championship). Other notable teams: K-State, A&M, and Oklahoma State.

The big knock on Bradford to date has been his arm strength and velocity. However, he has actually improved over the last year in that regard. He will probably never be a gunslinger, like a Stafford. But he can put the ball 50-60 yards down the field with perfect accuracy.

Also, since that second video that has you so concerned mecca, he has put on 8-10 pounds. That was just over a year ago.

For those that are comparing Stafford to Palmer: Stafford isn't even close to as accurate. That is my really big knock on him. Nearly every time Stafford throws the ball, you know his receiver is going to have to adjust to it and won't get any YAC. I would much rather have someone with the pinpoint accuracy Bradford is displaying than a gunslinger.

JMO.

Bradford is more polished and much closer to a finished product..if you have a competent coach that can teach Stafford footwork and base stuff think of what he'll be then.

Stafford is far and away more physically gifted.....Bradford is safe but I don't think he'll ever be elite....Stafford on the other hand is a bit riskier but he grew up idolizing Elway and does possess some of those skills.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Bradford is more polished and much closer to a finished product..if you have a competent coach that can teach Stafford footwork and base stuff think of what he'll be then.

Stafford is far and away more physically gifted.....Bradford is safe but I don't think he'll ever be elite....Stafford on the other hand is a bit riskier but he grew up idolizing Elway and does possess some of those skills.

While I agree that Bradford is not as likely to improve as much over time, does he need to to be an elite NFL QB? There have been a lot of accurate QBs who have made themselves into Elite QBs, especially relative to gunslingers. I realize Stafford has more upside - but the inherent risk is him not achieving it. That and Bradford is smart a hell. I'll take "Most important QB traits for $1000, Alex."

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

While I agree that Bradford is not as likely to improve as much over time, does he need to to be an elite NFL QB? There have been a lot of accurate QBs who have made themselves into Elite QBs, especially relative to gunslingers. I realize Stafford has more upside - but the inherent risk is him not achieving it. That and Bradford is smart a hell. I'll take "Most important QB traits for $1000, Alex."

But where does that go when I tell you that Stafford is pretty much a lock to declare and no one thinks Bradford will you can't go "well we ain't taken Stafford cause we want Bradford next year" then you have like the 3rd pick and miss out.

You can't play that way cause the odds of having back to back #1's is slim and none.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Mecca

But where does that go when I tell you that Stafford is pretty much a lock to declare and no one thinks Bradford will you can't go "well we ain't taken Stafford cause we want Bradford next year" then you have like the 3rd pick and miss out.

You can't play that way cause the odds of having back to back #1's is slim and none.

It depends on how it all shakes out. It maybe that the NFL is closing in on an agreement to slot rookies. If they do, I suspect Bradford would come out this year, because he's smart.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

We've been over this before: The biggest stat that correlates with NFL success is completion percentage.

This year, Sam Bradford has completed 79% of his passes, including against a tough Cinci D. Further, we will get to see him against: Kansas, Texas Tech, Texas, TCU and likely Missouri (Big 12 Championship). Other notable teams: K-State, A&M, and Oklahoma State.

The big knock on Bradford to date has been his arm strength and velocity. However, he has actually improved over the last year in that regard. He will probably never be a gunslinger, like a Stafford. But he can put the ball 50-60 yards down the field with perfect accuracy.

Also, since that second video that has you so concerned mecca, he has put on 8-10 pounds. That was just over a year ago.

For those that are comparing Stafford to Palmer: Stafford isn't even close to as accurate. That is my really big knock on him. Nearly every time Stafford throws the ball, you know his receiver is going to have to adjust to it and won't get any YAC. I would much rather have someone with the pinpoint accuracy Bradford is displaying than a gunslinger.

JMO.

Bradford and Tebow had very similar passing stats last year. Stafford was well behind.

2007
Bradford - 237/341 3121 36TD 8int, 69.5% comp.
Tebow - 234/350 3286 32TD 6int, 66.9% comp.
Stafford - 194/348 2523yds 19TD 10int, 55.7% comp.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Bradford and Tebow had very similar passing stats last year. Stafford was well behind.

2007
Bradford - 237/341 3121 36TD 8int, 69.5% comp.
Tebow - 234/350 3286 32TD 6int, 66.9% comp.
Stafford - 194/348 2523yds 19TD 10int, 55.7% comp.

Tebow probably shouldn't even enter into any statistical discussion regarding last year. I am curious to see how he will do this year in a more pro-style offense.

[boogblaster]

Drafting another QB means another 2 to 3 years of ugly games .. but its the only way to completely rebuild ... Croyle is too brittle ... I like the two kids from here KUs & MUs QBs...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by boogblaster

Drafting another QB means another 2 to 3 years of ugly games .. but its the only way to completely rebuild ... Croyle is too brittle ... I like the two kids from here KUs & MUs QBs...

They're to short.....anyone under 6' isn't a legit NFL prospect at QB.

[Mecca]

Well Stafford is going to be right at 35 at this end of this year......I'm curious to look at his % after this season, he did make serious strides from his freshman to sophomore year. I know people say he was shaky but he was a true Sophomore starting that's expected.

[Mecca]

Also as all the players on the field namely the lineman get larger the QB's have to be larger to see the field.

Really look at the top flight QB's they're all very large people.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Also as all the players on the field namely the lineman get larger the QB's have to be larger to see the field.

Really look at the top flight QB's they're all very large people.

So are all the really bad ones.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Brock

So are all the really bad ones.

[Mecca]

If Chase Daniel wants to make it in the NFL I'd tell him to shoot up a bunch of HGH and hope he grows a few inches.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If Chase Daniel wants to make it in the NFL I'd tell him to shoot up a bunch of HGH and hope he grows a few inches.

I think I'll send him some traction boots and tell him to go all David Blaine for a few days before the combine.

[CoMoChief]

Bradford > Stafford > Sanchez > BYU QB (cant remember name) > Tebow > Daniels