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Old 10-06-2008, 09:16 AM   #1
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I bet there were at least 10+ players in the league, not including QB's, that had more yards by themselves than the Chiefs did as a team.

I bet there were 20+ QB's with more rushing yards than LJ.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:17 AM   #2
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All he had to do was fix the DEFENSE. Seems simple enough, but Herm couldn't stand being one upped by an old man with his circus offense. Who's the clown, now, bitch? You are Herm.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:26 AM   #3
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All he had to do was fix the DEFENSE. Seems simple enough, but Herm couldn't stand being one upped by an old man with his circus offense. Who's the clown, now, bitch? You are Herm.
This is a great opportunity for legitimate Herm bashing, but your statement is pure horseshit. As inept as he is right now, Herm didn't destroy the offense. It was bound to fall no matter who was coaching. Herm deserves to be roasted, but definitely not for this....
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:51 AM   #4
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This is a great opportunity for legitimate Herm bashing, but your statement is pure horseshit. As inept as he is right now, Herm didn't destroy the offense. It was bound to fall no matter who was coaching. Herm deserves to be roasted, but definitely not for this....
I disagree. I'm not implying the offense would have remained a juggernaut, but there is no question, that Herm CHANGED the offensive philosophy. Let's also not forget that Herm, himself, IMPLIED the same thing. Don't you remember all the "offense will remain the same" bullshit he spouted went he first got here. Clearly it wasn't and one, Mr. Solari took the fall for HERM'S conservative and neutered approach, now look at Gailey's IDENTICAL APPROACH, same conservative, PREDICTABLE approach.


Don't confuse changing offensive philosophy with offensive player personel changing. Argueing about the effectiveness of the offense with the loss of Roaf and Shields, etc.. is an entirely different argument and one that I can see coming into the discussion, but I think you'll find it impossible to argue against what is being said, because I'm using HERM as the source that STATED, he DID NOT NEED TO CHANGE the OFFENSE.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:28 AM   #5
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I disagree. I'm not implying the offense would have remained a juggernaut, but there is no question, that Herm CHANGED the offensive philosophy. Let's also not forget that Herm, himself, IMPLIED the same thing. Don't you remember all the "offense will remain the same" bullshit he spouted went he first got here. Clearly it wasn't and one, Mr. Solari took the fall for HERM'S conservative and neutered approach, now look at Gailey's IDENTICAL APPROACH, same conservative, PREDICTABLE approach.


Don't confuse changing offensive philosophy with offensive player personel changing. Argueing about the effectiveness of the offense with the loss of Roaf and Shields, etc.. is an entirely different argument and one that I can see coming into the discussion, but I think you'll find it impossible to argue against what is being said, because I'm using HERM as the source that STATED, he DID NOT NEED TO CHANGE the OFFENSE.
You can't separate the offensive philosophy from the player personnel. It doesn't work that way. You can't implement an offensive philosophy, even a very successful offensive philosophy, without the correct player personnel to run it. If you want proof of this, simply look at Jesus Saunders' handiwork after he left here. Without the right personnel, the best offensive philosophy in the world will fail.

They made an attempt to run the same style of offense. But they couldn't because we had no decent talent waiting after Roaf and Shields left. You can't coach up reeruns like Kyle Turley and Chris Terry, and expect the same results as Willie Roaf and Will Shields.

Remember, Solari is the one that coached Roaf and Shields. But for some reason, the offensive line fell apart after those 2 left. Even though Solari was still here.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:54 AM   #6
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This is a great opportunity for legitimate Herm bashing, but your statement is pure horseshit. As inept as he is right now, Herm didn't destroy the offense. It was bound to fall no matter who was coaching. Herm deserves to be roasted, but definitely not for this....
Exactly, That falls at the feet of CP the other half of the idiot tandem that needs to go. He let the O-line get old without addressing it. I guess he thought Shields and Roaf could play great well into their 40's.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:18 PM   #7
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This is a great opportunity for legitimate Herm bashing, but your statement is pure horseshit. As inept as he is right now, Herm didn't destroy the offense. It was bound to fall no matter who was coaching. Herm deserves to be roasted, but definitely not for this....
bound to fall this far???????
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:30 PM   #8
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bound to fall this far???????
I agree, it wouldn't have fell near this far with a good HC
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:55 AM   #9
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This is a great opportunity for legitimate Herm bashing, but your statement is pure horseshit. As inept as he is right now, Herm didn't destroy the offense. It was bound to fall no matter who was coaching. Herm deserves to be roasted, but definitely not for this....
Yeah right. I'll just bet if Vermiel and Saunders were here it would be this bad

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Old 10-07-2008, 09:14 AM   #10
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Yeah right. I'll just bet if Vermiel and Saunders were here it would be this bad

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Yeah.....theres no ****ing way it'd be this bad.

Though Trent Green would still be QB. Don't really know if that's a good thing or not.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:53 AM   #11
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Yeah.....theres no ****ing way it'd be this bad.

Though Trent Green would still be QB. Don't really know if that's a good thing or not.
I have a feeling Roaf would of gave it one more year and DV would never ever let the OL get this terrible...

The Defense would still suck, but good thing Herm fixed that for us Fans...
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That Jared Allen trade looks AWESOME now.

**** I knew this would happen.

Moral of the story.......DONT TRADE YOUR BEST PLAYER!!!!!!!!!, ESPECIALLY IF HE's ONLY 26 FUGGIN YRS OLD!!!!!
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:34 AM   #13
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That Jared Allen trade looks AWESOME now.

f*** I knew this would happen.

Moral of the story.......DONT TRADE YOUR BEST PLAYER!!!!!!!!!, ESPECIALLY IF HE's ONLY 26 FUGGIN YRS OLD!!!!!
oh yeah, if we still had Jared Allen the offense would be humming and we'd be in first place.

shouldn't you go write articles for scout you imbecile
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That Jared Allen trade looks AWESOME now.

f*** I knew this would happen.

Moral of the story.......DONT TRADE YOUR BEST PLAYER!!!!!!!!!, ESPECIALLY IF HE's ONLY 26 FUGGIN YRS OLD!!!!!
Remind me how Allen would help the offese manage a first down...
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Remind me how Allen would help the offese manage a first down...
It would have been really cool if the Chiefs had tried him at TE.
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