Nick Athan.."Herm is 50/50 on coming back"

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think Petegz wants Herm back because a new coach probably signals the end of Thigpen.

I like petegz because he's the consumate fan of his teams. He roots for his guys and likes to give them every chance in the world.

I'm much more jaded. I don't give a **** about any player. I just want results.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I like petegz because he's the consumate fan of his teams. He roots for his guys and likes to give them every chance in the world.

I'm much more jaded. I don't give a **** about any player. I just want results.

Results are all I give a **** about.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Results are all I give a **** about.

I don't think a lot of KC fans are like this, however. I'd root for a bunch of TO's if it meant a SB or a Series in baseball.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I like petegz because he's the consumate fan of his teams. He roots for his guys and likes to give them every chance in the world.

I'm much more jaded. I don't give a **** about any player. I just want results.

I appreciate the comments. I hope I stay objective on players and teams I like.

I am not ready to call Thigy the next Montana, but I would like to see the kid get a fair shot with a full off-season of preparing as the starter with a decent o-line and decent defense.

If he stinks it up then, I'll be the first to call for his axe.

[Mecca]

It also speaks volumes that in 3 years the Chiefs still haven't found 1 god damn linebacker worth a crap

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It also speaks volumes that in 3 years the Chiefs still haven't found 1 god damn linebacker worth a crap

Especially with that fraud Gunther, the self-proclaimed LB guru.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Especially with that fraud Gunther, the self-proclaimed LB guru.

Gunther is good with players that can play in his style of D. We all know Cover 2 is not Gunther's gig.

Having said that, he needs to go.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Gunther is good with players that can play in his style of D. We all know Cover 2 is not Gunther's gig.

Having said that, he needs to go.

He got to ****ing cherry pick his defensive players and he still sucked.

Some of you need to break up with Gunther.

He was awesome when he had 2 stud pass rushers and 2 stud corners. You give ANY coordinator in the NFL that, he's fielding a top 5 defense.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He got to ****ing cherry pick his defensive players and he still sucked.

Some of you need to break up with Gunther.

He was awesome when he had 2 stud pass rushers and 2 stud corners. You give ANY coordinator in the NFL that, he's fielding a top 5 defense.

I'm pretty sure you and me could have called plays for that defense and been fine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He got to ****ing cherry pick his defensive players and he still sucked.

Some of you need to break up with Gunther.

He was awesome when he had 2 stud pass rushers and 2 stud corners. You give ANY coordinator in the NFL that, he's fielding a top 5 defense.

If you pick players that are more bltiz, man style players and stick them in a cover 2, what do you expect?

I am not defending Gun, I am just saying you hae to have players who can play in the system.

[ROYC75]

50 / 50 ........ Heh, that's better than I would give him if I were the GM.

[Mecca]

So basically Vermiel was better at noticing players that could play in his offense his expertise than Herm is at noticing players that can play in his supposed best side of the ball?

[Zouk]

Since the announcement yesterday, I've thought that Herm will be gone. It just makes sense. But I just watched the Holthus interview with Clark Hunt on the KCChiefs.com website and it surprised me. When Mitch asked him about Herm - Clark said that the final decision on Herm is his, but that the GM will have input. That's what he said at the press conference too. But then he followed that quickly with saying "I hope Herm will be back in 2009". Exact words.

Can a new employee (the new GM) really ask his boss (Clark) to do something he hopes he doesn't have to do to on his first month on the job? I think Clark is kind of saying he's not imposing Herm on the new GM, but that the implication is that the new GM is more likely to be philosophically compatible with Clark if he endorses keeping Herm on. I know if I watched that interview and then interviewed for the job, I'd say keep Herm because that's what I think the guy interviewing me wants to hear.

Also listening to Herm's PC today you get the sense that he thinks he's staying. That could just be his weird personality though. I think it will hit him hard if he's fired. He thought he was trading Jared Allen and not signing free agents so that he could be set up to win in 2009 and 2010. Also said he knew Carl was resigning well before Monday.

This morning I said less than 5% chance he stays. After listening to this stuff though I'd probably upgrade that to 1/3rd chance he stays. People should check out that interview - I'm curious if other people hear the same thing.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Zouk

I just watched the Holthus interview with Clark Hunt on the KCChiefs.com website and it surprised me. When Mitch asked him about Herm - Clark said that the final decision on Herm is his, but that the GM will have input. That's what he said at the press conference too. But then he followed that quickly with saying "I hope Herm will be back in 2009". Exact words.

"Let us hurry! There is nothing to fear here!"

"That's what scares me."

[Mecca]

So Zouk are you telling us you think we're gonna get a puppet GM then...