Chiefs Dorsey in the 3-4. - Page 6

**cdcox** · 01-13-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Yeah, let's trade Dorsey in his second season. Unbelievable.

So if Pioli and the coaches are 1) dead set on going to a 3-4 and 2) they determine that Dorsey isn't suited for it, what is your suggestion? That's all I'm speculating about. Both 1) and 2) are definitely possibilities. My question says nothing about Dorsey being a bust. He could still be a pro-bowl DT in a 4-3, but that does us no good if we go to a 3-4.

kcpasco · 01-13-2009, 09:08 PM

So someone explain to me what the good skills of a good NT are in the NFL and why Dorsey might not be able to transition to it.

**petegz28** · 01-13-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

So someone explain to me what the good skills of a good NT are in the NFL and why Dorsey might not be able to transition to it.

To light to play NT in a 3-4. Dan Saleamua was a good 3-4 NT

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-13-2009, 10:05 PM

Personally, I still think Dorsey was the best player to come out of that draft. Let's see who's doing what 3 years from now.

boogblaster · 01-13-2009, 10:07 PM

The 3-4 right now can't work ... We don't have the horses on the Dline or the speed and toughness at Lbacker ..

**petegz28** · 01-13-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster

The 3-4 right now can't work ... We don't have the horses on the Dline or the speed and toughness at Lbacker ..

Disagree...in fact I think Hali would make a better OLB in a 3-4 than a DE in a 4-3

milkman · 01-14-2009, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Disagree...in fact I think Hali would make a better OLB in a 3-4 than a DE in a 4-3

I don't think that Hali has the speed to play LB in the NFL.

keg in kc · 01-13-2009, 10:14 PM

Hard to talk about defense when we don't have a head coach, much less a DC.

Let's say we do go 3-4, theoretically. Dorsey doesn't have the size to play NT. He might work outside, similar to the way I've seen the Patriots use Seymour. Maybe Tank would fit the Wilfork role, I don't know.

boogblaster · 01-13-2009, 10:18 PM

Maybe, but Hali hasn't shown much lately ... He should be jellin' now but he's goin' the other way ... Maybe its his bad feet but he sure din't impress me anymore ...

**petegz28** · 01-13-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boogblaster

Maybe, but Hali hasn't shown much lately ... He should be jellin' now but he's goin' the other way ... Maybe its his bad feet but he sure din't impress me anymore ...

I think our entire defense was handicaped by the coaching staff. No way that many guys can suck that bad.

suds79 · 01-13-2009, 10:22 PM

If we went to the 3-4, Dorsey would have to move to DE. Honestly? I wouldn't be against trying it.

But we have nobody on the roster who could play NT.

I was thinking we'd have to target that Cody guy from Alabama but I guess he's staying in school.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-13-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

If we went to the 3-4, Dorsey would have to move to DE. Honestly? I wouldn't be against trying it.

But we have nobody on the roster who could play NT.

I was thinking we'd have to target that Cody guy from Alabama but I guess he's staying in school.

Sounds like Vonnie Holliday is going to be released, as is Tank Johnson.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-13-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

If we went to the 3-4, Dorsey would have to move to DE. Honestly? I wouldn't be against trying it.

But we have nobody on the roster who could play NT.

I was thinking we'd have to target that Cody guy from Alabama but I guess he's staying in school.

Nose Tackles are hard to find. But keep in mind that if we go 4-3, we have to find 2 pass rushing DEs, both of which are very difficult to find.

Direckshun · 01-13-2009, 10:39 PM

I've long thought Turk would be a great candidate for DE in a 3-4.

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Basileus777 · 01-13-2009, 11:32 PM

How high of a pick we spent on Dorsey is pretty much irrelevant now. He's on our roster and we should put him in a position to success regardless if that position was worth the pick. If Dorsey can play 3-4 DE and our coaching staff wants to play a 3-4, there's nothing wrong with having him play that position.

I doubt Dorsey can play DE in a 3-4 though.

01-13-2009, 09:08 PM	#2
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	So someone explain to me what the good skills of a good NT are in the NFL and why Dorsey might not be able to transition to it.
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boogblaster MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Verdigris Valley Campsite Casino cash: $10004900	The 3-4 right now can't work ... We don't have the horses on the Dline or the speed and toughness at Lbacker .. __________________ WR or S please
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Hard to talk about defense when we don't have a head coach, much less a DC. Let's say we do go 3-4, theoretically. Dorsey doesn't have the size to play NT. He might work outside, similar to the way I've seen the Patriots use Seymour. Maybe Tank would fit the Wilfork role, I don't know.
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01-13-2009, 10:18 PM	#9
boogblaster MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Verdigris Valley Campsite Casino cash: $10004900	Maybe, but Hali hasn't shown much lately ... He should be jellin' now but he's goin' the other way ... Maybe its his bad feet but he sure din't impress me anymore ... __________________ WR or S please
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suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	If we went to the 3-4, Dorsey would have to move to DE. Honestly? I wouldn't be against trying it. But we have nobody on the roster who could play NT. I was thinking we'd have to target that Cody guy from Alabama but I guess he's staying in school.
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01-13-2009, 11:32 PM	#15
Basileus777 MVP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Casino cash: $2135958	How high of a pick we spent on Dorsey is pretty much irrelevant now. He's on our roster and we should put him in a position to success regardless if that position was worth the pick. If Dorsey can play 3-4 DE and our coaching staff wants to play a 3-4, there's nothing wrong with having him play that position. I doubt Dorsey can play DE in a 3-4 though.
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