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Old 01-15-2009, 05:46 PM   #1
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I was watching the interview and couldn't help but get goose pimples a few times.

You know, I'm a little sick of the locals laughing at me when I wear my Chiefs red. Especially coming from folks in this state. But I will remember every one of them when the tide's turned.

It's a proud day to be a Chiefs fan. Our future looks very bright. Thank you Mr. Hunt.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:15 PM   #2
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:16 PM   #4
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I would be curious to see what Pioli will do. It has been well established in here the both Pioli and Edwards' philosophy does not match. However, the issue here is that Clark was really wanting to keep Herm around for another year, for whatever unknown reasons.

To me, it makes more sense to let Herm walk, and get the available coaches that are out there (Spagnuolo, Frazier, Ryan, etc.) so that the new coach can implement his own assistants and his system, and get the players that both matches Pioli and the coach's philosophy in 2009, and depending on the Draft and FA signings, that this year should show some (hopefully) improvement, with the goal of contending for the playoffs in 2010, along with the fact that Arrowhead Stadium will be fully remodeled, which would really energize the fan base.

If Herm is retained, and bombs out again (this is very probable, since the man can't coach, along with his assistants), then the Chiefs just completely wasted a year.

Of course, there are one year wonders that can occur (see Smith, Sparano) so that could be a possibility.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:54 PM   #5
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I've heard that he isn't on the boards, and even if he is... it's one game. It's not like Pioli's draft day options are going to live and die by this one meaningless game. He has an entire season's worth of film to judge against as well as the opinions he's doubtless formed over the course of the season. He probably already has quite a list of guys in mind that would fill roles here depending on the kind of schemes he'd like to see executed.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:01 PM   #6
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I Think He needs Herm to get both sides of the story about the players and why they performed the way they did. If Herm says a guy didnt give effort that goes into account. If said player says Herm wanted him to play too close, far away, look at the QB's eyes, etc. that goes into account when he watches film and talks to other coaches. He also see's whos full of it or not pulling their weight. It just helps him make a more informed decision about everyone.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:06 PM   #7
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I Think He needs Herm to get both sides of the story about the players and why they performed the way they did. If Herm says a guy didnt give effort that goes into account. If said player says Herm wanted him to play too close, far away, look at the QB's eyes, etc. that goes into account when he watches film and talks to other coaches. He also see's whos full of it or not pulling their weight. It just helps him make a more informed decision about everyone.
Problem with that, would you want to get information from Herm, who has shown us over and over that he simply cannot coach?

I wouldn't....
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:03 PM   #8
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Keeping Herm for a few weeks to pick his brain about players is about the only legit reason anyone could conjure at this point. Outside of that, there couldn't be any interview questions since Pioli says he and Herm have a long-standing personal relationship and there is plenty of data with regard to Herm's head coaching (in)abilities.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:04 PM   #9
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:54 PM   #10
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I strongly suspect Herm will be gone in about 2 weeks.

Told ya.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:03 PM   #11
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Told ya.
What was the Pats' record for the 3 seasons prior to BB/SP? I'm too lazy to look it up.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:00 PM   #12
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What was the Pats' record for the 3 seasons prior to BB/SP? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Those were the Bobby Grier / Pete Carroll seasons, as Parcells left after 1996. We went 10-6 in 1997, with a playoff loss to, err, the Steelers I think. Two very tight games against them that year.

9-7 in 1998, and then 8-8 in 1999.

Carroll may or may not have gotten a fair shake as a coach. Bobby Grier's drafts were TERRIBLE, and we were way over the cap.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:44 PM   #13
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Those were the Bobby Grier / Pete Carroll seasons, as Parcells left after 1996. We went 10-6 in 1997, with a playoff loss to, err, the Steelers I think. Two very tight games against them that year.

9-7 in 1998, and then 8-8 in 1999.

Carroll may or may not have gotten a fair shake as a coach. Bobby Grier's drafts were TERRIBLE, and we were way over the cap.
Depending on your definition of winning, that seems to contradict part of your original post. (Then again, compared to Herm's record, 10-6, 9-7, 8-8 looks pretty good.):

"He also references some of the unique challenges the Chiefs present compared ot the Patriots team that won a SB two years after BB/SP arrived. The roster is much younger here now, and there is no veteran core of players, nor a recent tradition of winning."
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:32 AM   #14
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What was the Pats' record for the 3 seasons prior to BB/SP? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Its better to compare the Chiefs to the Pats era of the early 90's. 90-92. Right before Parcells arrived.

Rock bottom. Exactly where the Chiefs are at.
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Amno, do you have a take on Pioli's machinations with Shanahan?
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