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-King- · 02-10-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Kill yourself with a herpes and AIDS injection.

Thats cute. Once again, you come into a thread and dick ride Sanchez without any credible argument.

MadMax · 02-10-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Shit happens I guess. But seriously, giving a 3rd pick to a basically unproven player is unrealistic. If we **** up and dont draft Sanchez and he turns out to be great, then we have a chance at getting another qb early next year. If Im right(which I hope I'm not) and it was a fluke year, then we wasted a pick on him and it will take YEARS for us to recover. One good year is no reason to pick a guy 3rd overall. We dont know if he can be consistent year to year.

We should definatelly wait till it's a "sure" thing.

-King- · 02-10-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

We should definatelly wait till it's a "sure" thing.

Not saying that.. I'm saying that this is TOO much of a risk. Thats like buying stock after one rise. Dont you need to see it rise consistently before you buy? We are investing our future into this qb. Dont you want to see much more than 1 year of production before you put in 70+ million?

Agent V · 02-10-2009, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Shit happens I guess. But seriously, giving a 3rd pick to a basically unproven player is unrealistic. If we **** up and dont draft Sanchez and he turns out to be great, then we have a chance at getting another qb early next year. If Im right(which I hope I'm not) and it was a fluke year, then we wasted a pick on him and it will take YEARS for us to recover. One good year is no reason to pick a guy 3rd overall. We dont know if he can be consistent year to year.

How do you figure it will take "years" to recover from a bad pick? How was Sanchez's year a fluke? This whole thread is ****ing reeruned.

-King- · 02-10-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

How do you figure it will take "years" to recover from a bad pick? How was Sanchez's year a fluke? This whole thread is ****ing reeruned.

Think about the money we would have to give to a #3 pick. YOu think it would be easy to recover if he busts? I'm not saying it's a fluke, Im not saying thats its not a fluke either. Its one ****ing year. Nobody knows if he can keep it up. One of the greatest things to have in the NFL is consistency. Nobody knows if this kid has consistency. He has only one year of college experience under his belt and we want to give him the key to this team and 70+ million?

Danman · 02-10-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Think about the money we would have to give to a #3 pick. YOu think it would be easy to recover if he busts?

Dude! It ain't your money. If Clark, Pioli, and Haley are OK with it, Why do you care/ It's the cost of doing business in the NFL. You want to be build a championship team or be 8-8 every year.

Wait, I remember, you only want safe picks. You don't want to draft anybody, spend any money. You're happy being 8-8 every year. You think that the current 53 players on our roster are better than any other club except they need to try harder. You surely don't want to take a chance and build a championship team.

-King- · 02-10-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Danman

Dude! It ain't your money. If Clark, Pioli, and Haley are OK with it, Why do you care/ It's the cost of doing business in the NFL. You want to be build a championship team or be 8-8 every year.

Wait, I remember, you only want safe picks. You don't want to draft anybody, spend any money. You're happy being 8-8 every year. You think that the current 53 players on our roster are better than any other club except they need to try harder. You surely don't want to take a chance and build a championship team.

LMFAO! You damn right I care. The more money we spend on one player, the less we can spend on others. Wtf is wrong with you.

And where the hell did you get that I only wanted safe picks? I just dont want to draft someone with ONE year experience. The guy has played what? 16 games in college and now he's a #3 pick? What the hell? He has one year under his belt and he's a top 5 pick? I dont want to spend 70+ mil and be cap strapped to the point we cant even do shit to resolve the situation . You dont build a championship team by giving one player a shit load of money when he has had one good year and you cant even prove that he is consistent. You build championship TEAMS by making sure each player is qualified for the long run.

I dont get how you equate Mark Sanchez with Championship team. It's not even like he took his team to the Championship. You're acting like he broke records in USC. He didnt so I dont see how he is worthy of being a #3 pick after three years. Hopefully Pioli and Haley see something that I dont but I dont see the logic of investing much needed money in such a risk.

This board and others are always clamouring for experience. YOu want Bill Cowher because his teams always make it to the playoffs. YOu want Shanahan because he has a lot of experience and two SB rings. You want us to get a good experienced LB to lead our defense... then you want us to get a player who has ONE year of college experience..not NFL...college experience, and pay him 70+ mil and give him the key to this team. How does that work? I understand if you want Stafford, but giving up a 3rd for Sanchez is crazy. Any qb can put up good #s one year, but it takes a franchise qb to post it consistently, and how do we know Sanchez can do that?

Danman · 02-10-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Shit happens I guess. But seriously, giving a 3rd pick to a basically unproven player is unrealistic. If we **** up and dont draft Sanchez and he turns out to be great, then we have a chance at getting another qb early next year. If Im right(which I hope I'm not) and it was a fluke year, then we wasted a pick on him and it will take YEARS for us to recover. One good year is no reason to pick a guy 3rd overall. We dont know if he can be consistent year to year.

First of all there are no sure picks. Busts happen. Any player drafted with any pick is an unproven player. By your way of thinking we should never draft another player regardless of position, EVER.

If we don't draft Sanchez, or Stafford for that matter, and they turn out to be great we have really f**ked up. The teams that draft and develop them will be that much better than we are.

The reason so many on this board want to draft a QB this year are:

1. Clark Hunt has said over the last 2 years he wants to draft and develop a franchise QB.

2. The most tried and true way of building a team in the NFL (and we are building in KC) is to draft a franchise QB and fill in complimentary players after the QB is in place.

3. In order to have a shot at selecting a franchise QB, you normally have to have a very high 1st round draft position. They are VERY MUCH in demand by all NFL teams. They generally don't last long in the draft and are usually taken with higher picks. Last year the Chiefs had the #5 pick. Going into the draft there was one QB considered a franchise QB-he was drafted with the #3 pick, so we didn't have a chance to draft him. This year we have the #3 pick.

4. In considering who we may select with the #3 pick Chiefplaneteers have speculated our biggest needs as QB, DE, LB, OL. Of these we've speculated:

a. OL. Generally the only OL selection worthy of a #3 pick is the LT position. Although there are some nice unproven candidates available this year, we used a first round selection on a LT, Albert, last year. We do not need another LT.
b. DE. There is not one DE who is head and shoulders above all the other DEs available this year. Some consider the prospects who probably will be available with the second round pick to be just as good as the player we may get with the first round pick. Also, we feel that in next year's draft, there will be an abundance of high quality DEs available.

c. LB. Some on this board would never draft a LB high in the 1st round. Every year Baltimore and Pittsburg find good players at LB in the 2nd, 3rd rounds etc. There are exceptions and this year there is one unproven prospect, Aaron Curry, who may be worthy of a high pick if your team projects him at OL in a rush position.

d. QB. This year there are two unproven players projected as high 1st round draft picks. Next years draft, right now, looks underwhelming. Plus we expect not to have the #3 pick in the draft next year. We may never be in a better spot to draft a franchise QB.

Those are the reasons for all the QB hype in so many threads. Some of us favor an aggressive approach, not only in on-the-field play, but in the draft as well. Are there risks? Sure, but we feel the rewards are higher than the risks.

Mecca · 02-09-2009, 10:03 PM

If you haven't noticed next years QB class is balls.

All the guys people were looking at for that class came out this year.

Deberg_1990 · 02-09-2009, 10:07 PM

My IQ just dropped 50 points after browsing through this thread...

-King- · 02-09-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

My IQ just dropped 50 points after browsing through this thread...

Wasnt that high to begin with.

beach tribe · 02-09-2009, 11:35 PM

Where is that article where the author breaks down the performances of Stafford, and Sanchez? It is very telling.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-09-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Where is that article where the author breaks down the performances of Stafford, and Sanchez? It is very telling.

When you find it, do me favor and PM it to me, would you?

Thanks.

Fritz88 · 02-10-2009, 02:51 PM

I think Thigpen needs to be given a full off season to work on his mistakes and contend for a starting spot.

Do I think that Scott and Todd know what the heck they are doing.

Yes and I will be fine if they drafted a QB in the first round.

-King- · 02-10-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I think Thigpen needs to be given a full off season to work on his mistakes and contend for a starting spot.

Do I think that Scott and Todd know what the heck they are doing.

Yes and I will be fine if they drafted a QB in the first round.

Me too. But I'm sick with everyone on this board saying that Thigpen is bad and needs to be cut. They act like he played in a good environment under a good qb developer. They act like he was supposed to be All pro despite the environment and time he was placed in. He was thrust into the starting role without a lot of time to memorize the teams plays, so of course the team would use a system he was familiar with. If a #3 qb suddenly has to play, a team sure as hell make adjustments to make him feel comfortable.

02-09-2009, 10:03 PM	#9
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Fritz88 Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $8505943	I think Thigpen needs to be given a full off season to work on his mistakes and contend for a starting spot. Do I think that Scott and Todd know what the heck they are doing. Yes and I will be fine if they drafted a QB in the first round.
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