Sanchez will throw at combine.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

To me that isn't as big of a deal with him because Sanchez has a legit arm in a pro style offense and has shown he can make tough throws.

Bradford got to make a ton of easy throws that was my issue with him.

That is a fair point.

I admit I haven't watched much of USC except in a couple of games so how was their O-Line and did Sanchez get hit or sacked alot?

[ChiefRon]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You'd think the fact that his report says "very smart, makes the right reads, rarely throws into coverage, very cerebral" would immediately catch everyones eyes as a hugely important thing.

That's the main reason I actually prefer Sanchez, even though I'm in the minority.

Seems like the first thing they mention about him are the intangibles, quick decisions, intelligence, passion, right before they mention the limited amount of starts, only playing from behind in one game, and the wrong decision to come out early. Then they usually say, "If this guy stayed in school, he would probably be the #1 overall pick next year".

Well, shit, draft the guy at #3 and let him sit and learn. Is he going to lose talent by learning in the NFL? Experience means a lot, but geez, won't experience learning to adjust how the NFL plays be more valuable?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

That's the main reason I actually prefer Sanchez, even though I'm in the minority.

Seems like the first thing they mention about him are the intangibles, quick decisions, intelligence, passion, right before they mention the limited amount of starts, only playing from behind in one game, and the wrong decision to come out early. Then they usually say, "If this guy stayed in school, he would probably be the #1 overall pick next year".

Well, shit, draft the guy at #3 and let him sit and learn. Is he going to lose talent by learning in the NFL? Experience means a lot, but geez, won't experience learning to adjust how the NFL plays be more valuable?

I think the thing no one mentions that's important is practicing everyday against the most talented defense in all of college football, and anyone that knows anything about SC knows how intense practices are.

You literally can not find a knock on Sanchez other than experience. Top intangibles, physical talent, leadership, smarts, confidence. It's all there.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You'd think the fact that his report says "very smart, makes the right reads, rarely throws into coverage, very cerebral" would immediately catch everyones eyes as a hugely important thing.

It does to me, and those are the specific reasons why I like Sanchez over the other quarterbacks. I also like his family background. They are very strong and supportive, and all show good intelligence and character. Personally, I don't think that his lack of experience means much, especially when almost everyone to a man thinks that he should sit and learn for at least a year, if not two before he even sees long term NFL action.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

However, why don't scouts rate intangibles and intelligence as premier qualities?

Because the biggest intangible -- can this guy handle being an NFL quarterback? -- is absolutely impossible to measure, no matter how many times you interview someone or watch him play.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Because the biggest intangible -- can this guy handle being an NFL quarterback? -- is absolutely impossible to measure, no matter how many times you interview someone or watch him play.

While that's true, one can get a sense of an individual's mental toughness from watching him play, interacting with teammates, how he handles pressure in the pocket, and how he handles himself under scrutiny from the media, as well as how he interviews.

The level of comfort and confidence that Sanchez displays in these situations gives one a feeling that he is more mature and better equipped emotionally to make the transition.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by milkman

While that's true, one can get a sense of an individual's mental toughness from watching him play, interacting with teammates, how he handles pressure in the pocket, and how he handles himself under scrutiny from the media, as well as how he interviews.

The level of comfort and confidence that Sanchez displays in these situations gives one a feeling that he is more mature and better equipped emotionally to make the transition.

I agree about Sanchez, but then, I was also enamored with Joey Harrington's intangibles.

I guess what I'm saying is that there's a reason why they're called that.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I agree about Sanchez, but then, I was also enamored with Joey Harrington's intangibles.

I guess what I'm saying is that there's a reason why they're called that.

My memory is hazy, but I think that Harrington played in a spread, and as we've seen, those guys don't transition all that well to the NFL.

I also liked Harrington's intangibles, but he's a guy that should have sat and learned and worked on his mechanics for a couple of years before he was thrown out there.

I also thought that he was a system specific QB, and the Lions offense was a bad fit.

The one thing I didn't really see in Harrington was maturity

I think all these things worked to stunt his development, and he has never recovered.

[ChiefRon]

Compare it to Stafford's scouting report from the same source:

Analysis
Positives: Perhaps a bit shorter than preferred, but has excellent bulk and strength for the position. ... Durable performer who never missed a college game due to injury, despite a leaky offensive line. ... Efficient footwork and depth on his drop from center. ... Quick to scan the field and go through his progressions. ... Elite arm strength. ... Can make all the throws and shows power and toughness getting the ball deep even when defenders are closing and making contact. ... Consistent with excellent accuracy to all levels of the field. ... Consistent placing the deep out on the far shoulder of his receiver, away from the defender. ... Has good deep accuracy and trajectory. ... Lofts the ball high enough to allow his receiver to run under it. ... Aggressive, but has developed into a smarter passer over his career and will take what the defense gives him by dropping to his second and third options. ... Learning to look off the safety. ... Underrated core strength. ... Keeps his eyes downfield and will step up in the pocket and is willing to take a hit to complete the pass. ... Surprisingly nimble in the pocket and can avoid the rush. ... Underrated straight-line speed and will take what the defense gives him. ... Takes his own success and that of the team very seriously. ... Extremely competitive. ... Team captain. ... Undefeated in bowl games.



Negatives: Can get fundamentally lazy... ... Though he has an efficient overall release, should be able to speed it up for underneath screens passes to take better advantage of the surprise to the defense. ... Sloppy footwork. ... Will get lazy and throw off his back foot, which could lead to turnovers in the NFL... ... Willing to throw into tight spots, though more often than not he places the ball where it needs to be... ... Not great accuracy on crossing routes. ... Too often leads his receivers too far or forces them to reach back, slowing their momentum and limiting their ability to generate yardage after the catch.



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[Rigodan]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Didn't he miss three weeks of practice?

Frankly, the more I learn about the guy... I am beginning to think he is a head case.
I initially liked the idea that he was going to throw at the combine.

Now, I think he may be a little too arrogant.

I am sure you know about his arrest, I think in his redshirt Sophomore year because the girl said no and he wasn't hearing it.

Now, he has one good year in college and Pete Carroll tells him he should stay in school and he's not hearing it.

Just have to wonder if he thinks he knows better than everyone else, and has this self titled attitude.

Don't need that on this team.
I was really hoping to find out more about him and get sold on him.... nothing so far.

Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Takes his own success and that of the team very seriously. ... Extremely competitive. ... Team captain. ... Undefeated in bowl games.

Ya there's no place for a guy like that on this team.

You don't ****ing know Mark Sanchez. You deem him arrogant and unworthy of playing for the Chiefs because he shows confidence in himself. You got to be kidding me.

[Mecca]

I like how that scouting report basically backs up what a ton of us have said about Sanchez being better coached and more technically sound, and guys were exploding saying we weren't scouts and didn't know shit.

[soundmind]

"...many of his touchdown passes went to receivers with five or more yards of separation between the next closest defender, opening up some questions if USC's dominant athletes and the team's aggressive play-calling helped him look even better..."


It opens up questions, but lets see if he makes the throws.

[Mecca]

Someone quickly point out what "dominant" WR he was throwing to...

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Someone quickly point out what "dominant" WR he was throwing to...

I'm all for Sanchez, but you don't have to be a nationally dominant WR, you just have to be significantly better than who you're playing against.

And USC WAS significantly more talented than the teams they play at probably every position.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Someone quickly point out what "dominant" WR he was throwing to...

Somone quickly point out what "dominant" WR Bradford threw to.... Someone quicky point out where those 4 SR Olineman are going to get drafted if they do.......