NFL Draft If Curry is gone at the 3 spot...who do we take or what do we do? - Page 10

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 03:50 PM

They put Levi Brown on the right side on purpose because Leinart is left-handed,therefore his blindside is the right.

Chiefnj2 · 03-01-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

They put Levi Brown on the right side on purpose because Leinart is left-handed,therefore his blindside is the right.

How many teams move their LOT to ROT when a lefty QB comes in?

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 06:53 PM

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How many teams move their LOT to ROT when a lefty QB comes in?

It's a fact. A lefty qb didn't jut "come in," they drafted those players to be their cornerstones of the future.

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 04:47 PM

He's still not a proven commodity, even in the 4-3.

Yes, that's his best fit, but there's no guarantee he'll excel. He has a chance to be good in the 3-4. It neutralizes his quickness, but we weren't using that anyway.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-01-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

He's still not a proven commodity, even in the 4-3.

Yes, that's his best fit, but there's no guarantee he'll excel. He has a chance to be good in the 3-4. It neutralized his quickness, but he weren't using that anyway.

If we start giving up on guys after one year, we'll be 2-14 for eternity.

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 04:53 PM

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If we start giving up on guys after one year, we'll be 2-14 for eternity.

It's more giving up on the whole front 7, which I think may be necessary. Our secondary has played well the front 7 just fell apart last season.

ChiefsCountry · 03-01-2009, 04:54 PM

When you dont have a rush defensive end, middle linebacker or SAM backer of course your front seven is going to fall apart. Put a legit NFL starter in those positions and our front seven isnt that bad.

keg in kc · 03-01-2009, 04:55 PM

Well, personally, if Curry is gone at three I do a little happy dance.

Mr. Krab · 03-01-2009, 05:23 PM

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Well, personally, if Curry is gone at three I do a little happy dance.

Who do you want then? I don't think he was asking about your personal aerobic habits.

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 04:55 PM

You're talking 2 top 5 draft picks, if we used those on a NT and a rush backer, you'd see a near-complete defense too.

tk13 · 03-01-2009, 05:16 PM

I don't know, we're talking about a 3-4 linebacker here. I think it's different if we're going to play 4-3, but why can't Curry play in a 3-4? Half the battle with a LB in a 3-4 is confusing the offense with the blitz packages. It's not like a 4-3 down lineman who has to play with his hand on the ground and develop pass rush moves. You're basically telling me you can't teach the guy to chase after the QB?

I mean he can't be held up by blockers every time of course but it's not like you're gonna be asking him to develop a bunch of Reggie White pass moves. You're gonna line him up all over the field and try to outsmart the offensive line with your blitz packages. Can he be smart enough to drop back in coverage when asked is the bigger question to me.

I mean we'd need a big DT too like Raji, but we need people all over the field. That's the same issue as on the offensive line... we've spent so many picks at these positions. It doesn't make a lot of sense to move Albert over, and it doesn't make a lot of sense to give up on guys like Tank and Dorsey, but we're going to have to do something.

Either way, people make their typical arrogant arguments, when in reality we need both a run stuffing DT, and a rush LB. When Parcells joined the Patriots he spent a #4 pick on McGinest. And Belichick spent top ten picks on guys like Seymour and Mayo. It's not an either/or thing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-01-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I don't know, we're talking about a 3-4 linebacker here. I think it's different if we're going to play 4-3, but why can't Curry play in a 3-4? Half the battle with a LB in a 3-4 is confusing the offense with the blitz packages. It's not like a 4-3 down lineman who has to play with his hand on the ground and develop pass rush moves. You're basically telling me you can't teach the guy to chase after the QB?
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Your rush backer is going to face the left tackle. He better have some damn nice pass rushing moves, or he's gonna get his ass whipped.

Mr. Krab · 03-01-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I don't know, we're talking about a 3-4 linebacker here. I think it's different if we're going to play 4-3, but why can't Curry play in a 3-4? Half the battle with a LB in a 3-4 is confusing the offense with the blitz packages. It's not like a 4-3 down lineman who has to play with his hand on the ground and develop pass rush moves. You're basically telling me you can't teach the guy to chase after the QB?

I mean he can't be held up by blockers every time of course but it's not like you're gonna be asking him to develop a bunch of Reggie White pass moves. You're gonna line him up all over the field and try to outsmart the offensive line with your blitz packages. Can he be smart enough to drop back in coverage when asked is the bigger question to me.

I mean we'd need a big DT too like Raji, but we need people all over the field. That's the same issue as on the offensive line... we've spent so many picks at these positions. It doesn't make a lot of sense to move Albert over, and it doesn't make a lot of sense to give up on guys like Tank and Dorsey, but we're going to have to do something.

Either way, people make their typical arrogant arguments, when in reality we need both a run stuffing DT, and a rush LB. When Parcells joined the Patriots he spent a #4 pick on McGinest. And Belichick spent top ten picks on guys like Seymour and Mayo. It's not an either/or thing.

If Curry can develop into a legit pass rusher he can be a perfect 3-4 OLB. He will be better than Suggs.

That said, the pass rushing part is the most important and hardest to develop.

bdeg · 03-01-2009, 05:53 PM

That's the problem. He has no practice at the most difficult aspect of the position, whereas guys like Everette Brown have been battling left tackles for years and have developed those skills.

Mr. Krab · 03-01-2009, 05:57 PM

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That's the problem. He has no practice at the most difficult aspect of the position, whereas guys like Everette Brown have been battling left tackles for years and have developed those skills.

It's true, but if Curry doesn't become a legit pass rusher he is still by all accounts going to be a very good traditional linebacker. That means he will be taken too high in the draft but not a total loss.

Moderate risk, Very high reward

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1977500	I don't know, we're talking about a 3-4 linebacker here. I think it's different if we're going to play 4-3, but why can't Curry play in a 3-4? Half the battle with a LB in a 3-4 is confusing the offense with the blitz packages. It's not like a 4-3 down lineman who has to play with his hand on the ground and develop pass rush moves. You're basically telling me you can't teach the guy to chase after the QB? I mean he can't be held up by blockers every time of course but it's not like you're gonna be asking him to develop a bunch of Reggie White pass moves. You're gonna line him up all over the field and try to outsmart the offensive line with your blitz packages. Can he be smart enough to drop back in coverage when asked is the bigger question to me. I mean we'd need a big DT too like Raji, but we need people all over the field. That's the same issue as on the offensive line... we've spent so many picks at these positions. It doesn't make a lot of sense to move Albert over, and it doesn't make a lot of sense to give up on guys like Tank and Dorsey, but we're going to have to do something. Either way, people make their typical arrogant arguments, when in reality we need both a run stuffing DT, and a rush LB. When Parcells joined the Patriots he spent a #4 pick on McGinest. And Belichick spent top ten picks on guys like Seymour and Mayo. It's not an either/or thing.
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bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	He's still not a proven commodity, even in the 4-3. Yes, that's his best fit, but there's no guarantee he'll excel. He has a chance to be good in the 3-4. It neutralizes his quickness, but we weren't using that anyway.
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bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	That's the problem. He has no practice at the most difficult aspect of the position, whereas guys like Everette Brown have been battling left tackles for years and have developed those skills.
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