Chiefs A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. - Page 8

bdeg · 03-02-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They're going to have to make SEVERAL exceptions if they plan on going 3-4 right away.

None of our existing DL would be ideal starters in a 3-4. Some of them might be backups at various positions, but we have no starters.

DJ is a starting ILB in a 3-4. Other than him and Vrabel (who might be a backup at this point) we have no starters at LB, either.

Pollard MIGHT be a decent SS in a pressure D. Page has no position, and both of our CB's are zone guys who might struggle in a pressure D.

By my count, your scenario of not making exceptions would require us to get TEN new defensive players this offseason. That's not going to happen.

Page isn't a perfect safety, but what about the 3-4 hurts him?

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

Page isn't a perfect safety, but what about the 3-4 hurts him?

Presumably, they're going to run predominantly Cover 1 with the SS up at the line. Page isn't suited for Cover 1 at all. He lacks top-end speed and his zone discipline is awful.

Mr. Krab · 03-02-2009, 10:48 AM

Which do we need more Curry or Raji?

I wonder which player is ranked higher on the Chiefs' board.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Which do we need more Curry or Raji?

I wonder which player is ranked higher on the Chiefs' board.

Raji plays the much more valued position.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 10:56 AM

Okay, first off; Spit Bubble salutes you, Nonsensical Chiefs Fan! He appreciates your advocacy and continued support!

Second,
Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, and Leggitt; that is our defense. That is it,and there ain't no more.

Much roster to fill. Much.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Okay, first off; Spit Bubble salutes you, Nonsensical Chiefs Fan! He appreciates your advocacy and continued support!

Second,
Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, and Leggitt; that is our defense. That is it,and there ain't no more.

Much roster to fill. Much.

Dorsey isn't the ideal fit for the 3-4 and both Flowers and Carr are zone CB's vs. pressure guys.

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-02-2009, 11:02 AM

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If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

Which is why I was against this move.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Which is why I was against this move.

I'm not keen on changing schemes when we're this young. Makes the last 3 years a COMPLETE waste instead of a partial one.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-02-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Herm's going to ride back into town on his white horse, assume the currently unfilled DC position, and fix this D once and for all.

Right, Sensible? Let Herm see this thing through?

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

hali is going to be an excellent rush backer, teams are going to be overwhellemed by his power, speed, instincts, and moves.

I know I'm dazzled as all **** about him!

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dorsey isn't the ideal fit for the 3-4 and both Flowers and Carr are zone CB's vs. pressure guys.

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

Uh, Flowers LIVES to bring pressure. Just because ****her never called a Corner Blitz, does NOT mean Flowers can't bring one. He can.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Uh, Flowers LIVES to bring pressure. Just because ****her never called a Corner Blitz, does NOT mean Flowers can't bring one. He can.

I'm not talking about Corner blitzes.

I'm talking about being able to man up and play bump and run. He did it some in college, but he also got burned alot when he did. They never used him that way here, so there's some question there.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid. I was just using him as another example why moving to a straight 3-4 with this many young players isn't what I would do.

MOhillbilly · 03-02-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not talking about Corner blitzes.

I'm talking about being able to man up and play bump and run. He did it some in college, but he also got burned alot when he did. They never used him that way here, so there's some question there.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid. I was just using him as another example why moving to a straight 3-4 with this many young players isn't what I would do.

just run the corners in a soft cover and let the SS play the line and the FS play cover 1.

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dorsey isn't the ideal fit for the 3-4 and both Flowers and Carr are zone CB's vs. pressure guys.

If we were going to field the IDEAL 3-4 D, we should probably replace everybody.

I'm not saying you're not correct, but this post just depresses the hell out of me.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:01 AM

Tamba Hali is the guy that immediately jumps out to me as having no 3-4 position more so than anyone else...the other guys you may sort of get by for a year.

htismaqe · 03-02-2009, 11:03 AM

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Tamba Hali is the guy that immediately jumps out to me as having no 3-4 position more so than anyone else...the other guys you may sort of get by for a year.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

You need rotational guys regardless of scheme and I do think Hali can do spot duty at OLB. SPOT duty.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 11:05 AM

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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

You need rotational guys regardless of scheme and I do think Hali can do spot duty at OLB. SPOT duty.

I'd agree if he did anything well, ran well, played the run well something..

Hell I think Brian Johnston has a better shot of being a 3-4 role guy out there than Hali does.

Now I think Flowers will be fine, and I don't particularly like the safeties and most of the front 7 needed to be replaced anyway.

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