Football Mayock says Lions should not draft Stafford - Page 3

Blick · 03-09-2009, 08:37 PM

I'm with Mayock on his assessment of Stafford.

However, I don't know if the Lions can afford NOT to take a QB.

Reerun_KC · 03-09-2009, 08:38 PM

Mike "sucking" MyCock cracks me up....

**MahiMike** · 03-09-2009, 08:43 PM

Trade down at #3 is looking better.

Mecca · 03-09-2009, 08:50 PM

The only thing that I've said that bugs me about him is his preference on certain positions. He thinks a blocking TE that can't receive very well is more valuable than a top flight receiving TE that is an average blocker.

bdeg · 03-09-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The only thing that I've said that bugs me about him is his preference on certain positions. He thinks a blocking TE that can't receive very well is more valuable than a top flight receiving TE that is an average blocker.

Maybe your disagreement is actually about Pettigrew's pass-catching ability. I know he's not the fastest guy ever but he plays faster than he times.

RustShack · 03-09-2009, 09:41 PM

I agree, I think the Lions take either a LT or Curry.

kcbubb · 03-10-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I agree, I think the Lions take either a LT or Curry.

you change your opinions quickly. you bashed me for saying Curry was worth the #3 pick and now you say he is worth #1 overall??? what about your positional value argument??? and what about the "you don't pass on a possible franchise QB if you don't have one???"

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-10-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

you change your opinions quickly. you bashed me for saying Curry was worth the #3 pick and now you say he is worth #1 overall??? what about your positional value argument??? and what about the "you don't pass on a possible franchise QB if you don't have one???"

He didn't say they were making the right decision, genious.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He didn't say they were making the right decision, genious.

I've been saying Curry to Detroit since the combined closed. STL will more than likely take the top Tackle, and we're right back where we were before.

Until I know that 3rd has been traded-down, it's QB Understudy Time at the ol' 2009 hoe down.

RustShack · 03-09-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

Mayock said he believes that 2009 will be an average draft class without much star power in the top 10.

Man where is Billgay to bash Mayock? He thinks this class is loaded with elite talent.

ToxSocks · 03-10-2009, 09:15 AM

Mayock should just

and quit trying to ruin shit for us Chiefs fans

Chief Faithful · 03-10-2009, 09:22 AM

Never been a Stafford fan for precisely the reason Mayock states, "played with two elite receivers and an NFL-caliber running back and "sometimes he looked like Superman and sometimes he looked average." I think Stafford and the offense looked average far to often last season.

If the Chiefs get Curry I agree he should play SAM with Vrabel at WILL. DJ would be good inside playing much the same position Scott played with Baltimore. That leaves a big hole on the inside next to DJ that I don't believe anyone on the current roster can adequately fill.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Never been a Stafford fan for precisely the reason Mayock states, "played with two elite receivers and an NFL-caliber running back and "sometimes he looked like Superman and sometimes he looked average." I think Stafford and the offense looked average far to often last season.

If the Chiefs get Curry I agree he should play SAM with Vrabel at WILL. DJ would be good inside playing much the same position Scott played with Baltimore. That leaves a big hole on the inside next to DJ that I don't believe anyone on the current roster can adequately fill.

If they go to a 3-4, there is no traditional SAM linebacker.

They can put him at ILB on the strong side which would be the most similar to SAM in the 4-3. It will come with many of the same responsibilities, only he will have to cover more to the inside as well.

Chief Faithful · 03-10-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

If they go to a 3-4, there is no traditional SAM linebacker.

They can put him at ILB on the strong side which would be the most similar to SAM in the 4-3. It will come with many of the same responsibilities, only he will have to cover more to the inside as well.

What do you call the OLB on the strong side in a 3-4? It is the ILB on the strong side that I feel would be the big hole.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-10-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

What do you call the OLB on the strong side in a 3-4? It is the ILB on the strong side that I feel would be the big hole.

Typically, OLB's in the 3-4 are not called SAM or Will. Some teams don't even call their 4-3 OLB's Sam or WIll. Traditional Sam or Will linebackers actually flip sides when the formation shifts, making them true SAM or WILL linebackers.

However, many teams leave their OLB's on the same side most of the game, making them LOLB, or ROLB. Similar to RDE and LDE.

While a 3-4 could technically rotate the OLB's depending on the formation and name them SAM and WILL and be 'correct'... they would not be true to the traditional sense of the description.

I think Hali and Vrabel will play OLB. I think Johnston has a good chance to be a third down pass rushing OLB. And, I think Curry and DJ would play ILB.

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