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Old 03-23-2009, 02:18 PM   #1
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You overrate draft picks, I think, if you think everybody at 10 or higher is the next Terrell Suggs.
No, I don't.

DeMarcus Ware & Merriman were both #12 overall. Suggs was #10. There is relative value to my expectation.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:27 PM   #2
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No, I don't.

DeMarcus Ware & Merriman were both #12 overall. Suggs was #10. There is relative value to my expectation.
I'm not saying it's impossible to get an impact pass-rusher in the 10-12 range. Obviously not.

But for every Ware or Merriman or Suggs you can cite, I'm sure with minimal effort I can find the next stud pass rusher who struck out. BC's Mike Mamula comes to mind.

Besides, by definition you've already admitted that Suggs is worth more than a #10 pick.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:30 PM   #3
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No, I don't.

DeMarcus Ware & Merriman were both #12 overall. Suggs was #10. There is relative value to my expectation.
Tom Brady was the 199th pick overall. I therefore expect that the 199th pick overall to be a future Hall of Fame player. I have relative value to my expectation.


see -- it doesn't work. I know a one time thing is a statistical anomaly, whereas you have listed 3 good examples for your position. Heck, Dwight Freeney would be a 4th example. But still, you can't value picks based on the best possible outcome. You have to discount it for risk of a bad pick for whatever reason.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:16 PM   #4
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For comparisons sake..

The Browns traded up 1 spot from 7 to 6 and gave up a 2nd rounder when they took Winslow.

So we are only getting a 2 to go down from 3-10?

Are you voyager?
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:21 PM   #5
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For comparisons sake..

The Browns traded up 1 spot from 7 to 6 and gave up a 2nd rounder when they took Winslow.

So we are only getting a 2 to go down from 3-10?

Are you voyager?

He said other disclosed picks. I liked it because there is no way to know which picks those might be. I think all can agree that the 1st and 2nds will be involved but after that it's just silly to even guess.

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Old 03-23-2009, 12:16 PM   #6
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What the hell, are they just throwing the value chart away?
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:18 PM   #7
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I don't see Brown or Maclin lasting that long, and it seems early for Sanchez and Freeman both. And Jenkins at 4? Cushing and Matthews both going by 15?
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:19 PM   #8
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And in general this mock is pretty terrible.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:49 PM   #9
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And in general this mock is pretty terrible.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:22 PM   #10
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Bad Buccaneers pick. Chris Wells is going to be the Mark Sanchez of running backs.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:23 PM   #11
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I like the trade and the pick, but there is no way in hell that Curry drops to number 14.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:32 PM   #12
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I like the trade and the pick, but there is no way in hell that Curry drops to number 14.

No shit ! What a stupid mock!
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:27 PM   #13
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I'm not real worried about getting point value per the chart.

If we have a chance to trade down, get MULTIPLE players at positions of need, and we have to give up 200 points of value to do it, **** it.

Do it.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:31 PM   #14
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I'm not real worried about getting point value per the chart.

If we have a chance to trade down, get MULTIPLE players at positions of need, and we have to give up 200 points of value to do it, **** it.

Do it.

No shit. That trade chart is only a guide anyway and there is nothing written in stone about how to draft players for the NFL.


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Old 03-23-2009, 12:27 PM   #15
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My question is how likely is SF to try and draft another QB that high after just getting burned by Alex Smith?
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