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Old 03-23-2009, 01:38 PM   #1
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Do you have multiple personalities or something? You literally spent days arguing with bdeg in the draft forum that the only place to find pass rush is in the first round. Now, you say that pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

WTF?
Brown projects to be an OLB.

I was speaking mainly about true defensive ends. I mentioned them by name as well (Peppers, Kearse, Bruce Smith, Mario Williams, Neil Smith, etc.).
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:52 PM   #2
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Brown projects to be an OLB.

I was speaking mainly about true defensive ends. I mentioned them by name as well (Peppers, Kearse, Bruce Smith, Mario Williams, Neil Smith, etc.).
Put on the brakes, here.

We're not going to get into this again, but the discussion was about impact pass rushers. Meaning both.

If it had been about DE's it would've been an irrelevant point to bring up in the first place.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:07 PM   #3
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Well first and foremost no one is a sure thing, there are guys who produced in college that never produced at the next level...

Also using Suggs as an example is being extreme he has the college record for sacks in a season and had question marks coming into his draft.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:39 PM   #4
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Well first and foremost no one is a sure thing, there are guys who produced in college that never produced at the next level...

Also using Suggs as an example is being extreme he has the college record for sacks in a season and had question marks coming into his draft.
If he had questions marks, it was by dumb****s. With his size, athleticism, speed and college production there shouldn't have been any question marks.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:54 PM   #5
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If he had questions marks, it was by dumb****s. With his size, athleticism, speed and college production there shouldn't have been any question marks.
He weighed 245lbs and put on weight and posted a poor time...teams questioned what his real position was.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:09 PM   #6
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He weighed 245lbs and put on weight and posted a poor time...teams questioned what his real position was.
Well, I'd say only a couple of teams questioned that (and were wrong) because there were some pretty good players that went ahead of him at #10.

Carson Palmer, Jordan Gross, Andre Johnson and Kevin Williams. I'm sure that Detroit (Charles Rogers), NYJ (Dewayne Robertson), Jax (Byron Leftwich) and N.O. (Jonathan Sullivan) wish they hadn't questioned his abilities.

I swear, sometimes these teams just over-think this stuff. This shit isn't a science.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:54 PM   #7
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:05 PM   #8
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We were definitely both being obtuse, but I think it's still possible to get lucky and find a game-changer later on.
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:10 PM   #9
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We were definitely both being obtuse, but I think it's still possible to get lucky and find a game-changer later on.
Oh, of course I agree. But the key word there is "luck".

I happened to the Chiefs once in 45 years. Those aren't good odds.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:36 PM   #10
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I think the Browns take him if he's on the board at 5. Depends who else is available I guess they could really like a QB.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:47 PM   #11
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