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Old 06-25-2009, 01:08 AM   #1
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Well, thats the end of Lebron getting a lane to drive in. Shaq takes up the whole key.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:11 AM   #2
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Well, thats the end of Lebron getting a lane to drive in. Shaq takes up the whole key.
It's only a problem if they play Varejao at PF next to him. The Cavs need to sign and trade Varejao or let him go elsewhere and get a 4 that can shoot, someone like Mcdyess or Sheed.

Cleveland just got a player at the C position that changes a team's entire defensive dynamic, and all it cost them was Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic. They just threw out two virtual nobodies for a heck of a center. For all Shaq's weaknesses, he's still an intimidator in the paint, a strong rebounder, and a mega efficient post presence. Shaq's excellent ability to pass out of the post alone is a significant upgrade. And since neither Shaq nor Big Z can play big minutes, you can have a nice rotation with the two of them.

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Old 06-25-2009, 06:59 AM   #3
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It's only a problem if they play Varejao at PF next to him. The Cavs need to sign and trade Varejao or let him go elsewhere and get a 4 that can shoot, someone like Mcdyess or Sheed.

Cleveland just got a player at the C position that changes a team's entire defensive dynamic, and all it cost them was Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic. They just threw out two virtual nobodies for a heck of a center. For all Shaq's weaknesses, he's still an intimidator in the paint, a strong rebounder, and a mega efficient post presence. Shaq's excellent ability to pass out of the post alone is a significant upgrade. And since neither Shaq nor Big Z can play big minutes, you can have a nice rotation with the two of them.
Yep. This is a good deal or potentially great deal for the Cavs and definitely makes them a legit team to get to the Finals.

From what I understand they are going to after Rasheed Wallace as well and that would make a pretty dominant inside game.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:02 AM   #4
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I'm not so sure this helps keep Lebron in Cleveland. Shaq is probably good for one more year if that.

How does this help Cleveland in the long haul?

It'll be interesting to watch them play next year though.

I always thought Pavlovic had some game.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:36 AM   #5
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Yep. This is a good deal or potentially great deal for the Cavs and definitely makes them a legit team to get to the Finals.

From what I understand they are going to after Rasheed Wallace as well and that would make a pretty dominant inside game.
Yeah, that's what they badly needed. Varejo's a great guy to have on D, but he's mostly worthless on offense--his game is mostly hitting open jump shots. And Ilgauskus... geez, the guy is slow as shit.

What they really need is a sharp shooter. Doesn't have to score 15 points a game. Just a guy who can hit open shots like Paxson or Steve Kerr. Moe Williams should have been that guy but wasn't.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:09 AM   #6
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Wow. The Cavs essentially picked Shaq up for Wallace's expiring/possibly bought out contract and a bench guy.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:18 AM   #7
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:37 AM   #8
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I can't wait for the 'lebron, tell me how my ass taste!' youtube video.
Shaq is too old for those conditions to repeat themselves.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:58 AM   #9
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Shaq is too old for those conditions to repeat themselves.
yeah, I know. it would be epic though.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:23 AM   #10
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All Shaq has to do is give the Cavs 25 quality minutes and they will make the finals.

Lakers/Cavs man o man the hype and the ratings. Bring it.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:20 AM   #11
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The Phoenix Suns' medical doctors have a remarkable way of taking players who can't seem to stay healthy for other teams and turning them into reliably healthy, productive players for the Suns.

I'd be willing to bet that Shaq doesn't continue to play as many minutes next season as he did for the Suns this year.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:10 AM   #12
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The Phoenix Suns' medical doctors have a remarkable way of taking players who can't seem to stay healthy for other teams and turning them into reliably healthy, productive players for the Suns.

I'd be willing to bet that Shaq doesn't continue to play as many minutes next season as he did for the Suns this year.
Well what is Amare's excuse?
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:35 AM   #13
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But can Lebron win one without Snaq?
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:46 AM   #14
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they still need guards that aren't midgets and someone besides LeBron who can shoot when it matters....

this makes them even slower...
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:53 AM   #15
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the suns are in luxury tax hell

amare has never had a coach
the suns just do there run and fun stuff no d no rebounding
and while like the vermiel years
it's fun to watch

it'll never win the big one

it's nash's team
when he's gone maybe they will learn to play basketball
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