Football To the Herm haters.

kcbubb · 07-29-2009, 11:37 AM

I'm tired of all the blame going to Herm. Yes, Herm had his share of blunders but the amount of hate that he gets is ridiculous. The biggest mistake that Herm made was underestimating the impact of Jared Allen. And I did too at the time. In 2007, the Chiefs almost had a top 10 defense despite their terrible offense. We know what happened in 2008. But we are quick to forget the defense of 2007. I'm not saying the Herm was a great coach, but he is not as bad as some here believe.

Just to irritate you, lets take a look at what might have been if Herm had stuck around.

-First the acquisition of Cassell never happens. Herm sticks with Thigpen and Gailey runs the system that worked well in the latter half of the season.

-The switch to the 3-4 never happens and the Chiefs continue to run a 4-3 defense.

-Most likely, no notable free agents are picked up.

-Tony Gonzalez remains with the Chiefs.

-The draft rolls around and Herm takes the safe route as usual and picks the following players:

1. Aaron Curry
2. Everette Brown (Herm likes this pick bc of the desperate need for a pass rusher to replace Jared Allen who was lost in 07 and the success of another small DE Dwight Freeney with the Colts where his role model Tony Dungy coached.)
3. Antione Caldwell (Mal Moore leadership award winner is drafted here) Herm kinda player. And can play all line positions but primarily C or G.
4. Louis Murphy (Herm picks a wide out for the needed depth and Murphy provide some speed.)
5. Jasper Brinkley (Tough middle linebacker probably starts.)
6. Andrew Gardner (RT tackle pushes or replaces McIntosh)
7. Captain Munnerlyn (CB and returner)
7. Ricky Jean-Francois (depth at DT)
7. Ryan Succop K

And to top it off. After speaking with Tony Dungy about Michael Vick, who has been mentoring Vick, Herm trusts Dungy and decides to give Vick a shot at backing up Tyler Thigpen.

Would all of this happened... probably not, but it is interesting to think about what might have been if Herm and Carl would have stayed. Again, I don't think Herm is great and I definitely don't think Carl was good, but I do wonder what might have happened. I do like the draft above much better than our current one, and I do like that we still would have Tony G.

MMXcalibur · 07-29-2009, 11:38 AM

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**The Franchise** · 07-29-2009, 11:38 AM

**** Herm.

and **** you.

Pablo · 07-29-2009, 11:39 AM

Haha. You obviously took a lot of time and effort to write out how you feel, but nobody's going to read shit you wrote and just call you a reerun for defending Herm.

Congrats on accomplishing absolutely nothing.

Reerun_KC · 07-29-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

**** Herm.

and **** you.

This!

If you want to immune Herm for the pathetic shit we are dealing with now.. Then go ahead, try to tell yourself it is okay..

But you can go **** yourself with a wooden spoon.

LaChapelle · 07-29-2009, 11:41 AM

ONly a few hate HErm the PersoN. MoRe disLike U.

Reerun_KC · 07-29-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

Haha. You obviously took a lot of time and effort to write out how you feel, but nobody's going to read shit you wrote and just call you a reerun for defending Herm.

Congrats on accomplishing absolutely nothing.

kcbubb · 07-29-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

Haha. You obviously took a lot of time and effort to write out how you feel, but nobody's going to read shit you wrote and just call you a reerun for defending Herm.

Congrats on accomplishing absolutely nothing.

that's my goal with posting is to accomplish things. We all get a whole lot done around here. look how productive all the posters are on here! keep up the good work!!!

Sure-Oz · 07-29-2009, 11:42 AM

Herm is on ESPN, who cares

**Bowser** · 07-29-2009, 11:42 AM

Herm failed at being able to manage a game, not in acquiring talent.

The guy won 6 ****ing games as a head coach in two seasons. That would be enough to get Bill Parcells fired.

milkman · 07-29-2009, 11:42 AM

How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby. bubb?

Do your parents wipe the drool off your face still?

JFC, you are a dumbass.

Sadly, you make Herman ****ing Edwards almost look smart by comparison.

Pablo · 07-29-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

that's my goal with posting is to accomplish things. We all get a whole lot done around here. look how productive all the posters are on here! keep up the good work!!!

Well, I accomplish epic wins at the internet and funny in general; so yes, some of us do accomplish things on CP.

You = Epically failtacular to the nth degree of fail.

**The Franchise** · 07-29-2009, 11:43 AM

Oh...and FWIW.....Herm would have kept Barth and not drafted Succop. And we wouldn't have the third 7th round pick. And we probably wouldn't have drafted Curry...instead grabbing an OT with the #3 pick and moving Albert inside to Guard.

kcbubb · 07-29-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Oh...and FWIW.....Herm would have kept Barth and not drafted Succop. And we wouldn't have the third 7th round pick. And we probably wouldn't have drafted Curry...instead grabbing an OT with the #3 pick and moving Albert inside to Guard.

Wrong again. Herm said he would have taken Curry on ESPN.

**The Franchise** · 07-29-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Wrong again. Herm said he would have taken Curry on ESPN.

07-29-2009, 11:37 AM
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5166719	To the Herm haters. I'm tired of all the blame going to Herm. Yes, Herm had his share of blunders but the amount of hate that he gets is ridiculous. The biggest mistake that Herm made was underestimating the impact of Jared Allen. And I did too at the time. In 2007, the Chiefs almost had a top 10 defense despite their terrible offense. We know what happened in 2008. But we are quick to forget the defense of 2007. I'm not saying the Herm was a great coach, but he is not as bad as some here believe. Just to irritate you, lets take a look at what might have been if Herm had stuck around. -First the acquisition of Cassell never happens. Herm sticks with Thigpen and Gailey runs the system that worked well in the latter half of the season. -The switch to the 3-4 never happens and the Chiefs continue to run a 4-3 defense. -Most likely, no notable free agents are picked up. -Tony Gonzalez remains with the Chiefs. -The draft rolls around and Herm takes the safe route as usual and picks the following players: 1. Aaron Curry 2. Everette Brown (Herm likes this pick bc of the desperate need for a pass rusher to replace Jared Allen who was lost in 07 and the success of another small DE Dwight Freeney with the Colts where his role model Tony Dungy coached.) 3. Antione Caldwell (Mal Moore leadership award winner is drafted here) Herm kinda player. And can play all line positions but primarily C or G. 4. Louis Murphy (Herm picks a wide out for the needed depth and Murphy provide some speed.) 5. Jasper Brinkley (Tough middle linebacker probably starts.) 6. Andrew Gardner (RT tackle pushes or replaces McIntosh) 7. Captain Munnerlyn (CB and returner) 7. Ricky Jean-Francois (depth at DT) 7. Ryan Succop K And to top it off. After speaking with Tony Dungy about Michael Vick, who has been mentoring Vick, Herm trusts Dungy and decides to give Vick a shot at backing up Tyler Thigpen. Would all of this happened... probably not, but it is interesting to think about what might have been if Herm and Carl would have stayed. Again, I don't think Herm is great and I definitely don't think Carl was good, but I do wonder what might have happened. I do like the draft above much better than our current one, and I do like that we still would have Tony G.
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Pablo Ultrabanned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northland Casino cash: $-1660644	Haha. You obviously took a lot of time and effort to write out how you feel, but nobody's going to read shit you wrote and just call you a reerun for defending Herm. Congrats on accomplishing absolutely nothing.
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-18384	Herm failed at being able to manage a game, not in acquiring talent. The guy won 6 ****ing games as a head coach in two seasons. That would be enough to get Bill Parcells fired.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby. bubb? Do your parents wipe the drool off your face still? JFC, you are a dumbass. Sadly, you make Herman ****ing Edwards almost look smart by comparison. __________________
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07-29-2009, 11:43 AM	#13
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2095047	Oh...and FWIW.....Herm would have kept Barth and not drafted Succop. And we wouldn't have the third 7th round pick. And we probably wouldn't have drafted Curry...instead grabbing an OT with the #3 pick and moving Albert inside to Guard.
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