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Old 08-26-2009, 02:22 PM   #1
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Good point.




Another good point.




Best point of all.




****ing stupid. He hasn't lit up the scoreboard, but considering the OL struggles, he's looked decent.

I've never thought he'll be a "bust", but I don't think he'll ever perform to the level of a franchise QB.
Well alot of good points, only thing that concerns me is I wish they would of test drove him for the 1 year, then signed him IF he preformed as expected..

I will support him fully, guy needs a chance, just wasnt thrilled when we took the big payday for him without seeing how he can preform without the NE type of players...
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:16 PM   #2
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Ty Law was old!

Branch got injured but was still fairly productive.

This **** stick is just trying to get a Nathanesque jump on a story so he can say, "See!!! I was right!!!!"
THE DEAL IS DONE.

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Old 08-26-2009, 02:16 PM   #3
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I actually think most of those belong on there going through that list...
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:24 PM   #4
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I actually think most of those belong on there going through that list...
Yep except the suspensions by Goodell and obviously the Cassell one
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:27 PM   #5
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Had this been a Carl trade, I would've agreed.

However, I have faith that Pioli knows what he's doing here, since, after all, he was working with the Pats last season and should know.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:17 PM   #6
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No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.

BTW Ty Law had 10 interceptions his first year after the Pats cut him.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:19 PM   #7
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BTW Ty Law had 10 interceptions his first year after the Pats cut him.
And many of them were Larry Brown Super Bowl XXX-esque.

He had clearly lost a step or four at that point.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:28 PM   #8
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And many of them were Larry Brown Super Bowl XXX-esque.

He had clearly lost a step or four at that point.
True, but that still doesnt help this guys point. Hes trying to name off players who had bad careers after the Pats. Law had 10 picks. I dont care if it was Larry Brown esque, 10 turnovers is 10 turnovers. After that season he came to KC so we could help run his career to the ground. Deion Branch hasnt been as bad as he makes it out to be also. Branch is old, and a servicable 3rd option on most teams.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:34 PM   #9
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True, but that still doesnt help this guys point. Hes trying to name off players who had bad careers after the Pats. Law had 10 picks. I dont care if it was Larry Brown esque, 10 turnovers is 10 turnovers. After that season he came to KC so we could help run his career to the ground. Deion Branch hasnt been as bad as he makes it out to be also. Branch is old, and a servicable 3rd option on most teams.
If you've paid any attention to the Patriots Way, his point is extremely valid, though you'll continue to disagree.

The Pats are IMO the best in the league at getting the most out of players, and then getting rid of them the year before their skills rapidly decline.

There's even a blurb in Patriot Reign where they talk about how they "just know" when the right time is to cut guys loose.

In recent memory, Asante Samuel is the only guy they've cut loose that actually played at a similar level to his play in NE - but it's only been one year.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:36 PM   #10
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If you've paid any attention to the Patriots Way, his point is extremely valid, though you'll continue to disagree.

The Pats are IMO the best in the league at getting the most out of players, and then getting rid of them the year before their skills rapidly decline.

There's even a blurb in Patriot Reign where they talk about how they "just know" when the right time is to cut guys loose.

In recent memory, Asante Samuel is the only guy they've cut loose that actually played at a similar level to his play in NE - but it's only been one year.
I totally agree with this, but I dont see how this makes Ty Laws 2005 season a so called "fail"??
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:18 PM   #11
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His entire point is very solid aside from the preseason one..

Law got picks but got beat a ton after leaving the Pats and Deion Branch has been a total bum.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:20 PM   #12
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No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.
I think this post is premature.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:21 PM   #13
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I think this post is premature.
He's giving his views on what moves he thinks will blow up in teams faces...

If I did the list he has atleast 5 of the ones I would have put on there.
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Old 08-26-2009, 03:57 PM   #14
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The Cassel deal was a steal. He will be very good.
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Old 08-26-2009, 02:21 PM   #15
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Ok here's where the article is 110% wrong, he could be a huge bust and it still wouldn't be anywhere near the worst offseason decision? Why? Cassel's signing by the chiefs directly caused the bronco's implosion....

That alone is a great outcome.
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