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Old 09-27-2009, 02:35 PM   #1
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With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
The end of the game, maybe. But halfway through the third quarter? I don't buy that at all.

As for giving ourselves a chance to win the game, it was pretty obvious from about the 10 minute mark in the 1st quarter that they had no chance to win the game. At that point the playcalling becomes about not getting embarrassed and not getting anybody killed.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:37 PM   #2
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The end of the game, maybe. But halfway through the third quarter? I don't buy that at all.

As for giving ourselves a chance to win the game, it was pretty obvious from about the 10 minute mark in the 1st quarter that they had no chance to win the game. At that point the playcalling becomes about not getting embarrassed and not getting anybody killed.
Herm used to comment upon "the need to play the game a certain way" to account for the personnel, and he was killed for these comments...
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:36 PM   #3
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With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.
he never started calling plays trying to win.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:37 PM   #5
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Haley takes blame ... I respect that. Maybe he is in over his head, but at least he admits blame. Unlike the last coach
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:38 PM   #6
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If he's going to call plays and we can't do this or that due to personnel I hope you guys are pumped for 0-16.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:39 PM   #7
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If he's going to call plays and we can't do this or that due to personnel I hope you guys are pumped for 0-16.
If we can't beat Washington or Cleveland then i will believe this.
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If we can't beat Washington or Cleveland then i will believe this.
Cleveland will be the game for the 1st pick, I don't think we'll beat Washington.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:45 PM   #9
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Cleveland will be the game for the 1st pick, I don't think we'll beat Washington.
I disagree. Oakland is not a horrible team. Good not great.

We showed last week that we can hang with teams that aren't exceptional. The Browns, Redskins, Raiders, and Broncos (twice) are games that I think we can hang in and potentially win. The Chargers (twice) and Bengals might be in that category too. I think we could easily win half of those. But only if we play like we did against Baltimore and don't make boneheaded mistakes as often as we did in Oakland.
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If he's going to call plays and we can't do this or that due to personnel I hope you guys are pumped for 0-16.
No way the executive of the decade could be a part of something so terrible. Not possible.
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No way the executive of the decade could be a part of something so terrible. Not possible.
They had a shit load of cap room and the deepest OL draft class in recent memory...and did nothing to fix this OL.

That inspires my confidence in their intelligence.
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They had a shit load of cap room and the deepest OL draft class in recent memory...and did nothing to fix this OL.

That inspires my confidence in their intelligence.
Cap room could have been used for FA. Tell me an available OL that was available and we passed on them?
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Cap room could have been used for FA. Tell me an available OL that was available and we passed on them?
In FA or the draft?
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:49 PM   #14
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Cap room could have been used for FA. Tell me an available OL that was available and we passed on them?
I keep asking that question.

Only Chiefzilla has given me some possible FAs and, while I agree with him that they'd be better than some of our current players, they're still second-tier people.

I'm looking for those blue-chip FAs everyone's convinced we didn't pursue.
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Cap room could have been used for FA. Tell me an available OL that was available and we passed on them?
FA: Jason Brown, Ray Willis.

Draft: Round 2: Eben Britton, Max Unger, Andy Levitre, William Beatty (Cassel Trade)
Round 3: (Magee): Antoine Caldwell, Kraig Urbik, Louis Vazquez
Round 4: Jonathan Luigs
Round 5: Duke Robinson, Fenuki Tupou


Just a few.
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